I am probably a fool but i’ll answer:
Nobody is against you giving something for free or donating. We are all grateful for everything you’ve done. What i’m saying is. “free” should mean free. If you let someone buy their way to throw advertisement there, it’ not free for me anymore. It’s like google ads. Either pay with your money not to see it or pay with your time and watch the ads. It is savage capitalism to force your advertisement on people .
Strange - the letters at the beginning of the sentence are missing in the quote. English is not my native language, I’m a Russian speaker if anything.
I didn’t advertise anything ever, except myself
I am not against you. On the contrary i respect you very much. And yes, of course you did not advertise anything. But what you suggest with that level 2 for 20$… Nobody would pay for promoting only free content. It would be used to slap payed content on our faces.
Lately, there has been at least one user blatantly abusing the free scripts category using the strategy of releasing the first part of a JAV for free and the other part(s) as paid script(s). I’m calling this blatant abuse as this was one seemingly legit method they were using while also using non-legit methods such as using an alt account to leave positive reviews.
This has shaken my view of scripters releasing part A as free and part(s) B(+) as paid. Not because it’s an inherently bad practice, but because bad actors are abusing it.
Maybe we need to be more strict and less trusting than I previously held we should be.
I agree, but I’m unclear whether it was explicitly an abuse of the Free+Paid system or whether it was just a “bad creator” using the system. Motion-capture, AI-assist, fake reviews, etc could have been used with solely Paid category posts without the Free category ads.
I took the opportunity to test some of the Free scripts posted as ads and that convinced me that I would not buy any of the Paid parts. IMHO, that means the system works.
They did get likes and sales tho. Not everyone checks the quality of the free script before buying the paid one, in those situations the strategy works and the system fails a user.
I do think it’s a good practice given responsible and informed forum users, but some people get scammed this way.
Maybe it’s fine to allow free partial scripts of sets to advertise paid ones and we should simply put more effort into reminding users to be skeptical.
To my knowledge lots of JAV studios release their videos in many parts. Each part tend to be quite long and the whole set is often a couple of hours in total. So the A part is actually a full video being scripted, but most of the real action is in the latter parts. So, in my opinion this is a corner case where the full video is actually scripted for free, but the entire series of videos from the same set isn’t.
Is the A part a partial script? In my opinion it isn’t. My definition of partial script is when a video file isn’t fully scripted, only parts of it.
Anyone into JAV should know that the A part is only the first in a set. But ultimately it’s up to the mods to decide the interpretation of the rules based on the complaints.
Yes, that is my original opinion shared in this topic.
It just turns out that scripting part of a set for free is quite effective advertisement for paid scripts of the rest of the set, and effective advertisement strategies are likely targets of abuse from bad actors.
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I just wanted the make sure everyone see the distinction compared to true partial scripts that has been used in the free scripts section earlier. Multipart JAV is a corner case and I agree with you that it can be abused.
In regards to the multi part JAV videos, my opinion.
Yes, it’s common place for them to be released in multiple parts, however… it’s no coincidence that the first free part usually contains no action or very little. I believe some users deliberately picked these videos so that the free portion would only be a tease, in order to manipulate people into buying the paid parts.
I think the solution is quite straight forward, making free first parts is perfectly fine, but you should not be allowed to link to paid content within the free section of the forum. A generic link to your profile for more content is probably fine, just aslong as it is not directly refering to the fact that you have the other parts there, indirectly linking to paid content.
A blanket “no linking to paid content” rule in the free area of the forum would resolve alot of it i suspect. With a caveat that you ARE allowed to link to your overall profile, aslong as you are not directly refering to the paid content within. (Specifically to avoid advertising paid content in the free area with the exscuse that THIS part is free, when in reality there’s basically no scripted content there, it’s just an exscuse to redirect you to paid content.)
It really feels manipulative and playing on peoples sense of FOMO and such.
To me, the splitting the JAV studio did themselve, is what can be deemed as full videos.
So if they chose 4 sections, thats 4 full videos in regard to scripts. Even if each section is 5mins, its how the studio decided.
When the scripter decides to split the video, then its an actual split. To which we can add a nuance that effectively action free sections are free to be cut away if the remainder has enough action.
But lets say the orignal was 15mins long, with 5mins of action, if its cut tot that 5min action, i would still says its worth to call it full. If its just 4 of the 5mins of action, it no longer is. 10mins without action and 1min with action also wouldnt be full.
We can at least state which areas are allowed to be removed of content by some guides. Whether those are removed, thats up to the scripter then. We obviously cant (and personaly shouldnt) ask them to combine the videos to 1.
Not only because it asks them to do more, its also a very clear problem for copyright related things.
Just so everyone knows.
I am working on verbiage to make the part 1 abuse against the rules.
Otherwise the practice is fine but this kind of abuse it not acceptable at all, let alone in the free scripts section.
I’m not sure I understand, you’d prefer the paid scripter made no free part at all rather than make the part 1 free?
Like if people can’t stop themselves from buying the following parts because the first one is free, without even checking the first part, maybe they should work on their impulse control.
Allowing manipulative practices and putting the responsibility on the people being manipulated is probably not a direction we want to go. Making free parts is perfectly fine, but the manipulative practice of using it in order to advertise paid parts in the free section is not.
Essentially putting no effort into the first free part because it has very little or no content and then using that as an exscuse as to why they should be allowed to post links to paid content for the other parts within the free section of the forum.
free part 1 scripts with paid additional parts in longer videos are fine.
if this is abused (part 1 has very little action) the post will be deleted. Repeated abuse will be a permanent ban.
The reasoning, is the free part 1 has little effort and only serves to advertise the paid scripts.
The free script MUST be able to stand on it’s own.