Free scripting dead?

I haven’t responded to this thread yet, so here’s my two cents.

TLDR: Free with Paid Multi-axis is an awesome untapped market… The current paid Single-Axis script market incentivises people to produce slop. We need people to write script reviews.

This is my preferred method of releasing free content.


I’ve been posting all my scripts for free, with multi-axis scripts behind a paywall. I’ve also been charging basically nothing for each script – like 2 dollars for scripts that are very high-effort and time consuming. *Just as a note, my scripts are typically about ~1200 actions for 2 minutes of video. That’s about 3x the norm on here. It takes me 6 hours to script a 2 minute video.

I justify releasing content this way for the following reasons, some are speculative:

  1. If you can afford a mulit-axis device you can (probably) afford a $1.99 script. Hell, I could probably charge more, but I won’t.
  2. Handy device users are generally more casual users. They are less likely to buy scripts than multi-axis device owners anyway, despite making up the majority of the community.
  3. Multi-axis is easily 3x more time consuming and testing-intensive than single-axis scripts. So, if you make multi-axis content it’s more tempting to release it as paid.
  4. There is higher demand for multi-axis scripts because there aren’t very many of them to begin with, and the ones that do exist mostly suck.
  5. [THE BIG REASON] I get to release high quality single axis-scripts as a byproduct (since multi-axis scripts are only as good as their L0 script anyways) and get thousands of eyes on my script that I would never get if I released it as paid.

Example:

I released these three scripts at roughly the same time. The paid script only got between 20% and 50% the views as my free+paid script post. If you take into account how many views on other posts I got through clicks through the little ads I put in those free posts, I’d say 100+ of those views on Siddung Pon It were because of click through on those other posts. What does that mean? Well, when you post in Paid, people don’t see your shit. If you want to make a name for yourself on here YOU MUST POST IN FREE, otherwise your stuff will 100% get buried.

For me, I love being able to release content that is to a very high standard of quality, get paid for that work, and still give something back to the community for free. This might be the way forward. By releasing partially-free scripts, I get to give the community high quality L0 scripts and make money. Not a lot of money… In two weeks I’ve made like 90 bucks. But still!

From what I can see, and my experience creating scripts so far, single-axis scripts do not sell well unless you are already established as a scriptwriter. I have had 1 sold single-axis script so far, compared to the ~40+ multi-axis scripts I’ve sold.

What I see is that the people who want to create paid single-axis scripts have to choose between low-views, low # of posts, and high script quality (AKA no money/no bitches); or middling-views, high # of posts, and low script quality (AKA some money / no bitches). Over the months that I’ve been on this platform, I’ve seen countless creators opt for the latter, because frankly that’s what makes money. I genuinely think the perception that “Free Scripting is dead” is actually just people noticing this shift in marketing strategy by some of the less meticulous scriptwriters on this forum. I can’t see their receipts, but my guess is that more posts = more money, regardless of the quality of the script. All they have to do is clear the bar of “is this broken/ai generated?” and if they do they can make a dollar or two.

What we really need, in my opinion, is people to write reviews of scripts, especially single-axis scripts. Write controversial ones, good ones, bad ones. Just people to say “hey this author, their scripts are shit” or “hey, this one is worth the money” could change the face of the website because right now there is no barrier to slop. What happens when no one calls out the slop? We become a slop factory. Right now there are 5 (FIVE) script reviews on the entire site.

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There’s a problem with exclusivity I’d imagine most people own a handy or other mainstream devices that only have single axis. The only people buying the paid version that has multi axis will be users with multi axis devices for someone with a single axis device the main version of the script is the free single axis script. I’m assuming here that people that want to make money want there to be only 1 script available on the platform for a video be it single axis or multi axis you pay them because they are the only ones that have made a script for that video.

I would honestly prefer if a free single axis and paid multi axis model was popular and common because ultimately you still get a script for a video and it’s not gatekept you just pay for more immersion with multi axis.

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The thing that comes up for me, who would definitely consider reviewing scripts, is how in depth the reviews seem to be (expected to be). I am happy to throw a few dozen quick reviews up of stuff I can absolutely recommend, but I am an engineer with ADHD not an essay writer… what is the expectation? I also have been making a short list of single and multiaxis scripters- free and free examples of paid- that I intend to directly support, and I have also been making an even shorter list of single axis scripters that I think could do great work with multi axis. I have a spare barely touched OSR2+ with a brand new twist receiver I want to let go to a good scripter for cheappp as long as they’re committed to giving back to the community. Reviews would really help me narrow that down too so I am all in. I can slowly print and build more even but I just don’t have the privacy I would need to script myself.

Hey there is no expectation that the reviews have to be in depth. Just throw up a quick one, I’m sure whoever you review will appreciate it. I just write long reviews because I like to. Currently there are only like 5 actual reviews on the whole forum, so its hard to say there is any kind of expectation at all

That’s fair, can always just set an expectation at this stage. I do actually have three brief review drafts right now and one I’m looking forward to trying and reviewing another post after tomorrow. I’ll try and throw one or two up in the next week or two, you’re right; why not?

Wish there was more testing on using Tempest Max’s Tjoy concept- seems like a scripting tool worth using.

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Well reaction to the homework review plan seem overwhelming, mainly by you. Who would have guessed? At least you tried.
Quality check even if not the topic but requirement of tokenized scripting, there realy is no way around a mandatory clip export with gauge and timeline.

  • No work for staff (except check if present)
  • No homework for users
  • Easy to export for scripter with Fungen which is free
  • No need to download and check in Editor for example OFS or Fungen.

You see alot of points so likely not hand made as no one sets so many points manually. Tip is scripted too low. Underexaggeration could be OK as multiaxis dunno. Overall looks like usable script with less then 3 frames off but clearly not frame by frame.

Its really enough as a basic quality check.

I mean, I got to try out g90ak’s stuff and I didn’t even have to buy a second OSR2, so while the “getting other people to write reviews” plans has not yielded any fruit yet, I would still call the plan a massive success.

Planning on writing a couple of unsolicited reviews of some paid scripts before I call it quits. I need at least 1 negative review before I throw in the towel. Don’t want to go out just recommending people/scripts but right now I’m batting 100% lmao

Maybe if I write something shorter than 10 paragraphs people will actually have the urge to write their own, idk. I’m coping.

EDIT: why don’t you write one roa, you’re extremely opinionated and know a lot about scripting?

did you mean to post this over here:
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/anastangel-magic-glasses-multi-axis/326223/3

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It’s already been talked about why people do not want to use fungen.

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You’re 100% correct on all points.

I consider myself a hobby scripter. Meaning I script what I want to my own personal preference at my own pace. I then release it in the Free Scripting forum to share my work and return the favor from other scripters providing free scripts.

To me it isn’t about “getting” something out of it, so much as it is, participating the Free Scripting community to give as I take. Think of it like torrent sites that requires a 1:1 ratio on seeding/leeching. Upload to Download. However, this shouldn’t be a requirement, for the Free Scripting section.

If you want something else for “motivation” put out a tip jar.

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Out of …

I have made a whopping …








4 dollars from my tip jars.

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I do want to say that I loved your DarkRoomVR scripts and I wound up cancelling my subscription once you stopped. If you get back to scripting regularly, I’m looking forward to it (regardless of studio).

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So I just announced a new process for becoming a reputable script creator.
I also have plans to use that and similar mechanisms to build incentives to create free scripts.
The leaderboard plugin is configured to only award points in Scripts > Free Scripts (this can be expanded to other categories but for now it’s only that)

I did not forget about this recommendation. I want to implement it, and I have an idea to hopefully kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

I think a script exchange category that’s exclusive to a VIP group of users who meet a set of requirements should be able to “Bounty” a script for a script.
Users post publicly in the exclusive category so everyone who’s a VIP can benefit.

This will create a separation in the forum, but I had an idea to minimize that by making a group “Lurkers privilege”. By buying a Patreon subscription you can get read only access to the VIP exchange category.

  • Encourage Scripts > Free Scripts creation
  • Have a VIP group of users who can do script-for-script bounties
  • Raise funds for the forum

It avoids enshittifying the Scripts > Paid Scripts section, while also creating new incentives and helping cover forum costs. If it makes enough money, I can setup a 2nd hardware node and make the forum highly available on the firewall and we’ll never have any downtime ever.

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I personally love the idea of a VIP zoo where the patreon people can gawk at the forum trolls who don’t touch grass (myself included.) I guess it’s back to the grindstone so I can be a zoo animal (I only have like 780 leaderboard points lmao)

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I just updated the requirements to reduce the required score for higher trust levels
I think you will actually qualify

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I know it’s probably not the case, but I’m going to pretend you lowered the bar just for me haha

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I analysed the data from users making the cut and users not and adjusted it again:

Trust Level 2

  • Minimum 30 Topics
  • A leaderboard score of at least 1000

Trust Level 3

  • Minimum 20 Topics
  • A leaderboard score of at least 700

Trust Level 4

  • Minimum 20 Topics
  • A leaderboard score of at least 500
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Hi guys ive created a few scipts and recently done an xev one, all my scripts are free. Im not open to requests sadly as im too busy. Tbh its nice to make people happy haha especially for free.

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There is also another argument I forgot, why a token system would be advantageous. There is tons on unpublished scripts people made but did not care publish. Some of them would if there is a single paid script in return of his choice. If the token buys from paid scripters they would benefit also.
The exchange system is a nice try from Vlad that will not work as intended.

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