Funscript.org post-mortem

You can’t just steal and then ask the victims to opt out. It works the other way around. You ask permission or people to opt-in. I know this is a hard concept for the AI enthusiasts but it’s how it works outside of your specific bubble.

Edit: This reply was for the site guy. I don’t know why I replied to your comment other than my thoughts were a continuation of what you responded with!

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This is not really extending an olive branch. This is the status quo, this should already have been the procedure.

I think there are 2 avenues this should go down.

  1. Eroscripts cuts ties with funscript.org permanently, a permanent ban is issued, and we all move on.
  2. You personally put significant effort into resolving this, re-imbursing creators, handling takedowns proactively, and Eroscripts will consider re-instating the advertising (After resolutions have been done). Just like in telemacy’s case, I can provide infrastructure and organisation to assist in handling these resolutions.

I advise you take the 2nd avenue. I would like things to end amicably.
Take a note from telemacy’s handbook. The moment there was an issue, he took full accountability and immediately started working with me and the forum on a resolution.

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Just a quick update. I’ve gone through and removed all videos and scripts that were added during the initial testing phase, including everything linked to FapTap and EroScripts. They’re no longer visible on the platform.

If you’re a script creator and would like your content on Funscript.org under your own account, I’m happy to set you up with a free premium membership as we genuinly do want good scripters on the platform. Just reach out at support@funscript.org.

I’ve also added a notice on the public library page so anyone browsing is aware of the change.

On top of that, I’ll be building a script lookup tool that lets creators check whether their scripts match anything uploaded to the platform. This will be freely accessible without needing a subscription, so anyone can verify at any time.

Going forward, the public library will only contain content submitted directly by creators or with their permission.

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This is a great first step. I would still like to hear about how you plan to re-imburse creators and how you’re proactively going to handle these conflicts.

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I’ll repeat this “You should be able to easily say how many scripts are from this forum and how many script authors authorized it to be reuploaded” and “anything that you can’t verify was authorized to be reuploaded should be removed from your platform” I think the idea of script authors having to make a take down notice is not ideal and they can’t even tell if their scripts have been reuploaded due to the libary being pay walled @VladTheImplier

Just to make sure there’s no language barrier here. “proactively” is a very important word here.
This effort does not fall on creators.

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Fair point. Here’s what I’m thinking on both:

Reimbursement. For any creator whose scripts were used without permission during the testing period, I want to make it right. I’m offering free premium membership. If creators feel they’re owed more than that, I’m open to discussing it individually. I don’t want to throw out a blanket policy that doesn’t fit everyone’s situation.

Proactive prevention. The script lookup tool is the start, but longer term I’d like to work with the community on something better. One idea would be cross-referencing uploads against existing databases, whether that’s through an API with EroScripts or a shared script fingerprint registry that creators can opt into. That way scripts could be flagged automatically before they go live.

I know that gets complicated, especially when the same creator wants their script on both platforms. So I’d rather build it properly with community input than rush something out that creates more problems. If anyone has thoughts on how they’d want that to work, I’m open to suggestions.

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Well, then please tell us, from how many Scripters, and whom you stole from!

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Thank your for clarifying that

You need to make the names of script authors that have had their scripts reuploaded available for this to happen they have no way of knowing if their script is on your platform

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Just for the record I have quickly gone through the sites for other advertisements we take on the forum. No one else is in the business of scripts specifically besides FeelX and they don’t (currently) have a community based platform. Losing funscript.org’s support will hurt but the forum will survive.

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I removed my initial testing uploads and also removed the account “Scriptshare” which was 100% faptap videos. There are no more faptap video associations and the video count went from over 1000 to 192.

As mentioned, it is very hard to determine where scripts come from when users can upload them, thats why I am eager to add a cross referencing tool for this.

This a bit more complex as to break this down you would potentially need to see how many users are interacting with the pay walled library specifically and how many are using non related stuff like ai, games etc. It also could just be a flat rate paid to script authors at least with funscripteds case the scripts were sold individually so any amount of revenue made could be attributed to that script author.

I don’t need any financial compensation. It’s enough that you deleted my scripts. I also sent you a couple more suspicious accounts. I also recommend checking the rest of the videos manually; there aren’t that many of them now. A simple search for the name on eroscripts is enough.

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It shouldn’t be hard anything from faptap would have been uploaded by the original author and their name on faptap would be the same as their name on eroscripts. I don’t know what other sources you are referring to that would cause confusion the majority of scripts uploaded on your site are from eroscripts users how are you unable to tell who made the scripts? Also like with funscripted you should easily be able to tell who made the script originally by looking at the file size of the funscript.

Without an API that is difficult. The only users who used faptap as a video source was me during the testing (3 videos) and scriptshare who’s entire library was from faptap.

As mentioned, I have removed the entire library so there should be no stolen scripts. Thats being said, I will still add a cross referencing tool and if eroscripts does have an api, I could automatically check before a user uploaded script is added. Maybe another step I could take is to only allow videos that were scripted with our script editor but some users may have alternative preferences.

Difficult to see when browsing the “public videos” is restricted via a paywall. I’m curious how many as well. Most of these sites run off of stolen Scripts > Free Scripts taken from here anyways.

Instead of Scriptos, introduce a decent verification process for scripters to filter out reposts. Give creators a cut of the premium subscription revenue.

These companies keep doing it en masse and then pull the “we didn’t know, sorry!” excuse and then advertise, lol.

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@VladTheImplier can you help with the api?

Probably not. I’m not a seasoned programmer. I know enough to hack around but building production ready applications is outside my skillset. I am going to make an effort to learning how to do so and build funsign

It should be also noted, I refuse to use AI to write my code.

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There literally is an API though. You don’t even need an API token to use it. Just add .json to any URL in your URL bar on the site.

If you write a polite enough scraper (and get @VladTheImplier’s permission), it shouldn’t be hard to just crawl the first post of every topic in free to download all free scripts, do some normalization (run them through jq to standardize formatting and sort fields), then compute LV distance or something more clever. Heck, you don’t even need to do normalization or LV distance, I bet most abusers won’t bother mutating the scripts to begin with.

Create your own index of scripts and check all uploaded scripts against the index. If LV distance is too similar, push it into a moderation workflow/purgatory with a link to the original eroscripts topic and manually check it.

Bonus points if you crawl mega links using megatools to download scripts from there as well.

Yes, you will miss some scripts, but this will get like 90% of the cases.

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