Any NFT/blockchain potential for scripts?

It’s a little irrevelant here, I think the main factor that repel people from pirating Netflix or VRporn is the filesize. You can store thousands of scripts and your hard drive won’t even notice, but try that with 1000 videos that have 10-20GB each and you get my point.

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Please don’t…

blockchain meh - NFT no- peer2peer sharing platform for scripts with a index and search function could be made to a huge QoL

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I get your point about storage costs :slight_smile: There’s just a lot more to NFT’s than what it is currently used for. It just needs a lot more development to leverage the other use-cases. The site, app(s), protocols, encryption, … all have to be redesigned from the ground up.

Here’s an example of a pretty straight forward, but interesting NFT usage: Reserve private time with camgirls at a certain date/time. I understand you would have a bunch of questions and potential issues already, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be done. An escrow-like system protects both the camgirl and user from not fulfilling the agreement. You can make the NFT’s non-transferable to combat scalpers.

By extension, camgirls can brand their tokens, charge different rates for different days. ie reserving a private on valentine’s would go for more in all likelihood than any other day. This has nothing to do with the scripts, but scripts are just one asset of the larger picture (ecosystem).

Maybe I should add a script usecase too: Users can sell their purchased script (NFT) back to some one else. HOLD YOUR HORSES!! I’m not talking about making profit from it, or loss of revenue for the scripter! The resell value can be fixed to the same price as if buying it from the site. You can program the NFT to have the same revenue still go to the scripters. The user would not get the full amount back, but that’s not the intention anyway.

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TBH I don’t see what NFT brings to the table except locking consumers and site owners into a specific ecosystem given what has been described here so far. What’s been mentioned can be solved in other ways with more flexibility and still allow for 3rd party software and open source projects to work independently. Sure NFT could solve some, but is it really better than other solutions?

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Let’s assume that you sell script as NFT for $10 and the revenue for reselling the script is $5 that goes to the scripter. The person that bought NFT uses the script then resell it for $10 minus revenue. So the person that bought the script actually paid $5, the scripter got $15. Every person that resell the scripts at the same value then adds $5 to the scripter and actually pays $5 for a script EXCEPT the last person in the chain that pays the full $10 price for a script until it resells it. Because of that fact the scripter is always up $10, the last person is at the loss of $10. In the end it’s just not worth it imo in my opinion. Ofc you can fix the revenue at different cost, but in the end someone is at a loss, either scripter or buyers. And yes, people can sell it for bigger amounts, but it doesn’t change the fact the the last person in the train always is at the loss until the new buyer appears.

Now, people who bought the NFTs have to find the person that will buy it from them and I can imagine that at some point some sort of marketplace will be required. People who owns marketplace would be stupid to not try to benefit from it by trying to implement a fee from each sale. And on top of that you create crazy negative environmental impact to sustain the operations.

While your intentions might be good, I just think that consumers will always be hurt in the process.

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That will never happen. If they could get away with it, the studios would prevent you from selling a physical copy of the movie. They want to get paid over and over for the same thing as much as possible. The last thing they’ll do is facilitate a way for someone to pay once for the right to watch a movie and be able to sell that right to someone else, putting no additional money in the studio’s hands.

The only actual uses for NFT’s are likely to be what they are now - utterly useless, and effectively a Ponzi scheme.

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That’s not a compliment.

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Chiming in just to say that watching the community react like this is warming my cold mechanical buttplug heart. Y’all are great.

NFTs are worthless for this. I just had some asshole show up on my discord asking about this exact thing, my community shouted them down before I got there to clean up, thank fuck.

Unfortunately, I think at least some services trying this are gonna happen (more likely: already happening) whether we like it or not, but getting scripts and using them with toys is already a tall order, and I don’t see how adding even more complexity gets anyone anything (versus, say, images, where it’s just a picture). Hopefully they’ll fail fast and lose their creators money in the process.

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Could NFT’s be beneficial for some, any or all areas of creative works? Not necessarily right now, but to reject it while the technology is in it’s infancy is simply a lack of creative imagination. Blockchain technologies could very likely empower and employ creators of all art types, used as a key to exclusive content, events, early access, live shows, etc…

There already exists many different solutions to a variety of problems I’ve seen pointed out, it’s simply a matter of time for the winners with real benefits to the community as a whole to establish their marketshare. I’m sure everyone here can instantly come up with dozens of ways for it to fail but all it takes is that one right idea in a garage to turn into the next Amazon’s of the world.

And if someone actually comes up with a good use for NFTs, that isn’t much more easily and cheaply done with existing technology, that doesn’t consume excessive amounts of power and drive up the cost of video cards, then at that point people can evaluate them and consider whether it suits their individual needs.

But that’s not the world we live in right now and there’s no point in acting like current uses of NFTs are any more worthwhile than email spam.

(And, uh… if you’re aware of someone with a way to run a blockchain that isn’t proof-of-work or proof-of-stake, I’m interested.)

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What I’m saying has likely already been said by many people here already.

NFTs are a really interesting technology that’s currently in its infancy (in terms of understanding what the best use cases are). I don’t know how it would apply to our little corner of the internet in a meaningful/beneficial way, but I always try to keep an open mind.
There is the use case of giving ownership of things on the cloud so that they truly own it instead of being locked into one company and account. Dunno how much demand there is for a script aftermarket though since the files are downloaded locally (at least today) and are pretty cheap.
Outside of that, I can’t currently think of any script specific use cases for NFTs.

Regarding cost and energy usage, these problems are either already solved or in the process of being solved. You can use alternate platforms to Ethereum with lower costs. Also, Ethereum has scaling solutions being built on top that similarly lower cost, and these are actively rolling out right now.


Side note that’s not directly NFT related, but another crypto project like Arweave for permanent storage could have use cases for permanent data backups in case this site were to ever disappear. However, then you’re dealing with permanent data, so once someone puts it up there, there’s no taking it down later. We’ve seen plenty of examples where scripters decide they want to remove their stuff at a later date.


Side note 2, there’s also the potential for adopting a crypto token for the community, for example for governance. There may also be use cases for tokens as a reward mechanism for contributions or other things.

Overall there’s a lot of experimentation happening in the crypto space. A lot of it will probably not survive the long term, but some of these technologies/ideas/ways of organizing will. It’ll be an interesting next couple years to see how this all develops.

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i think of NFT like walking into a art gallery at a college fair. random picking, only benefits the seller. buyers will be left holding the bag unless you love the art

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Blockchains and NFTs are just Ponzi schemes for the rich to extract money from the masses of working class people. If a money system is funded by another fiat money system it’s by default not legit.

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NFTs absolutely don’t solve that.

I won’t even go into the claim that energy usage of crypto is solved…

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What the point of doing it? ^^
This is like NFT for jpeg lol.

The above is sounding very ominous.

I do not stream or use the SLR app. If scripts or videos become tied to an ecosystem, or the app, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be the only person seeking to instantly cancel my subscription despite how much I enjoy it right now. I’d really rather not do that.

I’d actually argue that diving into the murky world of NFTs may push more people into piracy. People will still want to see the content and this would very much be an example of Gabe Newell’s stance of piracy being a service problem. Nobody wants NFT technology as part of the service!

We’ve seen someone who works for SLR call the results of a survey of what customers want “100% wrong” in this thread, and that in conjunction with these suggestions is a scary thing. DoubleVR seems to not have a strong interest in NFTs and is more willing to listen to the customer base, I’m grateful for his stance. But I will ask outright for the sake of clarity - is there a danger of this technology being incorporated into SLR’s services in any way?

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With people selling their selfies as NFT’s, I guess it only depends if there’s a market. :sweat_smile:

no

unless something new comes out that would be really beneficial for everyone

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9 days later, first line of this post, from the very same official voice of SLR: “It’s about time we start thinking of getting NFT and blockchain on SLR.”

Do I need to elaborate on how damaging this is to the community’s trust in SLR? 9 days ago I asked if there was a danger of NFT technology being incorporated into SLR’s services in any way. The answer then was no NFT technology “unless something new comes out that would be really beneficial for everyone”.

That post on the SLR forums, 9 days later, doesn’t suggest that anything new or beneficial has come out, it’s SLR proactively exploring ways to incorporate NFTs. And that was after asking how we felt about NFTs and accepting that there was nothing but contempt for them from the community.

This is incredibly disappointing. I’ll say it again, the literal opposite was said by SLR’s official voice to the community just 9 days ago. 9 days, Jesus Christ. What other SLR decisions are going to be reversed just as quickly!

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