That’s how I do it for scripts I only free up if I get a fulfilled scriptrequest as return. I put them in paid even if there is no money involved but paid by scripting.
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Has this rule gone into effect or was it just a discussion? Since this was posted I began to make my free scripts on Patreon as paid content, but I wasn’t sure if I needed to continue doing that.
It was a discussion. The rule isn’t in place and it probably wont be installed as-is.
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Thank you for clarifying.
Is something else going to be put forward for discussion or change like an tag so people know that the scripts aren’t site hosted?
Sadly the poll does not contain mixed.
I think there are actualy more like 4 main categories on scripts:
- Paid video, paid script
- Free video, paid script
- Paid video, free script
- Free video, free script
And each of these has its own flaws. Personaly i think its more anoying when a free script involves a paid video as that denies use of the free script anyway. And i would say this does set a benchmark for me on whether i support or dont support the change in rules.
For a paid video, i wouldnt be surprised that a free script would be behind such login wall. If you pay for the video, you are more likely to accept the link to the other site to download it. As long as the download is otherwise easily obained, im fine here with the extra effort.
However, if its a free video on pornhub, xhamster or any other free site, i hate it when the script is behind such wall. In this case i do agree the link must be directly downloadable without paying with your data.
The video itself does decide which measure of effort is acceptable, if its a free video that requires logging in at a certain site, then if the script also requires that, its balanced.
I think the category free scripts would benefit with a subcategory for paid videos. And in the main category you can then apply the new rules, while the subcategory is then excluded.
If however i need to strictly take 1 of the 2, then i obviously will pick the one that takes the least effort for me, so no login walls allowed (which is what i voted for).
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Paid videos are usually shared unless the no-free-links tag is used which then yes it does become a lot harder to obtain the video. However usually most videos are out there on the internet somewhere, you just need to know where to look unless they are made by relevantly unknown creators. Which at that point they are very hard to get a hold of, but still not impossible if you give it time.
Anyway point is paid video’s have it’s tag/identifier of no-free-links and I also have not yet gone for a video that requires signing into a site to access so I struggle to see where you have seen this occur.
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I have only skimmed the thread, so I apologize if my thoughts have already been shared above.
I super appreciate all of the free scripts that folks put out, but at the end of the day I am far more likely to skip over a free script than to go sign up for some external account to follow and get it. Furthermore, I will even do a quick Google search to see if anyone has reposted it elsewhere instead of creating a free account. Why? I don’t want to keep tabs on several websites, keep track of who is who, and there is also already tons of free scripts out there with no barrier. I’m never going to subscribe and, if I really like someone’s work, I am far more likely to make a commission request for a video. I feel like if people want free Patreon subscribers, or whatever other sites, you can just advertise that you release scripts early on your Patreon for free subscribers.
I am only one person, but thought that I’d add another data point. However, if this gets you the free subscribers that you want for your work, great! I am truly happy for you all since you put in time and effort to this.
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i think i agree on the already mentioned idea of just adding a mandatory tag (or maybe a sub-category within free scripts?) instead of considering all scripts behind captcha and 3rd party accounts/sites “non-free”. this should minimally impact the visibility of those scripts.
tags could be sth like #patreon-free, #email-required, #3rdpartyaccount-required… don’t want to jump through those hoops? just exclude them from your search. although this would require some sort of extension for discourse, wouldn’t it? i don’t see a way to exclude tags from search right now.
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I’m admittedly new, and the free section is my first stop. But if there’s a video I really like and really want a script for, to use for estim or other toys, I’ll gladly pay for it - I don’t think it necessarily limits the viewership, only makes it so the users understand the expectations.
It’s a buzzkill at most to peruse the free section and find there is an obstacle to obtaining a script when others are direct from the site. If I was that concerned about my digital footprint and being connected to various patreons or whatever host sites, I wouldn’t be here in the first place, though.
I can’t blame creators for wanting to recoup something for their time and effort - be it a number of subscribers that helps them monetize their site, click/ad revenue, or straight up selling scripts. Or, a person who does monetize their scripts offering a few for free as a taster, or someone starting out seriously and building a following.
I do work in marketing, and you really don’t want a site that caters exclusively to one group over another - creators/consumers. Doing both is possible, it’s freakin 2024. Consumers can become creators, and creators also consume.
At the end of the day I think it’s just a response to people being frustrated at having to give up something - information has value - for a script when they weren’t expecting to have to. Adding in that various browsers and settings can hide captcha and other kinds of pop-ups needed to access content, it’s a minor hassle in the greater scheme.
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Or simply a 3rd category of “not hosted by ES” or a single tag. Less is more.
You can exclude tags from search with the following syntax: -tag:[tag name]
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sure, but people may have different degrees of tolerance to this problem. personally i would not mind joining a free patreon, probably wouldn’t mind giving my e-mail, but i doubt i would bother registering an account on some random website.
thanks, although i wasn’t checking the forums’ search engine, just the normal view of threads within the category. IMO having a proper UI element for this would be great if we decided to go with such a solution.
Well you did say “from search”. Otherwise you can mute tags in your profile (Preferences > Tracking > Tags > Muted) and topics with those tags won’t appear at all in the categories.
oh that’s on me then lol, i didn’t mean “search” as in “literally using the forum’s search engine” but “the general process of looking for something”, could have been clearer.
and thanks again for another tip 
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https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/i-didnt-last-long-with-the-hot-ellie-tay/197136
how it should not be, not free.
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I know I’m late to the discussion 
My personal stance is, I’m happy with the way it is right now. I can decide post by post, based on video title, preview and heatmap whether the script will be worth the effort of jumping through the hoops or not.
If scripts that require e.g. a free Patreon account were posted in the Paid scripts section, I’d never see them and potentially miss out.
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Anndddd…I’m not surprised this has happened as it was only a matter of time till someone tried it which is part of the reason why I think the scripts should be hosted on the site as well as a requirement.
Luckily that does go straight to Patreon it seems rather than going to a short-linker that is suspect like bitly has become where they might hit you with some viruses and such.