You should read the rule that was made.
You would have realized what you considered not free is against the rules.
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What i mean is that even if a platform is free, the platforms themselve can involve some disgusting effects. Lots of advertisements on the side with a download button in the center that directly leads towards the download is to me still excessive.
Its a case of nuances that define whether you pay with data. As for many people data simply has no value (as they dont know its value). And i would say that its fair if you set limits here.
I agree, forcing ads on the user is considered a barrier and will be deleted.
A good rule of thumb to consider is if there is any more effort than clicking a couple links then it’s not allowed.
That would include having trouble finding the link because it’s masked.
The Free scripts section is purposefully for gratis. We all love the tech and porn that get us off, and often the best orgasm is a free orgasm.
There might be more rules down the line for free scripts. The goal is that posts have enough quality that they’re not spam for advertisements like other porn sites.
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I’m sorry… I think I’m missing something. I’m not intending to be argumentative, I truly am not understanding something.
You say here that the script writer gets to decide where it goes, yet the rules as stated above say that Free Patreon and Gumroad is not allowed? Both sites require an email address. Although Gumroad doesn’t actually verify that the input is correct. (If you are wondering who bgates@microsoft.com is… That’s me. 
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I see that advertising that you have a Patreon/Gumroad is ok… But are the scripts required to be available in the post or not?
I think sharing a free script for a video in a set while promoting paid scripts for other videos in that set is a very good approach, and the one script ought to be allowed to be categorized as a free script.
There are cases where scripters have only scripted one part of a multi part JAV film and posted it as a free script. These wouldn’t suddenly become paid scripts if the other parts have paid scripts made for them.
Having a free sample for part of a single video posted as a free script where the full script is paid would be different imo.
Public Patreon posts do not require an email to access and as such would be fine to use as the script link.
Patreon posts that require joining a free membership would not be fine for a free script.
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Ok, I didn’t know there was a Public tier on Patreon.
Doesnt matter, it baits people into filling in the information. And since most of these forms do require valid input, people will assume the same here.
Its not much diffirent towards people using a dump mail account to sign up. There are plenty of services for this.
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Since the banner leads here, I think the first post should be updated to document the rule.
It’s a bit weird to click on the link from the banner and the first sentence here is “this rule is not implemented and will not be implemented as-is.”
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It may be worth it for the impacted scripters to agree on a tag they can add to their no-cost-but-requires-jumping-thru-hoops scripts they now may post under Paid Scripts. Maybe something like “gratis”
I am on board with the change regarding barriers. Seriously, thank you.
Sincerely thank you.
I’m good with this rule, I’d like to ask about mega or other such hosted scripts. there have been a few times where a script is no longer available due to the mega being taken down but the post is still active. can we not simply make the rule if the script if free it MUST be hosted here minimum. extras/updates in a mega are fine but the script should always be available.
Great, now we just need to get rid of the multi part scripts where the first one is free with almost zero action in it, and the parts with the actual good parts are all paid, but links to all of them are now in the free post because the first part is free.
It’s blatant manipulation and annoying af.
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I too am against that and will likely be making another rule targetting that.
We try to be careful about being overzealous. There are legit ways that can be a fair deal for a user and profitable to script makers.
For ex. Providing a free full script for the first scene in a fap hero and selling the full length hour one.
We should be careful about the verbiage.
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This sounds like it needs an entire seperate category: trial versions. This does indicate the full script is paid just in the category name alone.
However, in this a nuance needs to be made. A trial version that is the full script on a single axis is still usable as full script and therefor should be allowed as standalone free script. Its meaningless as trial version of a multi axis script since there is no multi axis in use then.
And with it, a minimum length should be required. To avoid 30s samples showing up there, only to promote a 2min video. It would just ask for spam taking place. There are already enough complaints about 2min videos in the free script category. under 2min trials are meaningless. Even 2mins on its own is already quite a restriction (still too short to me).
To me A trial version to me should be at least 2mins of action (note, not video, action. it can mean the video must be 5 or 10mins as a result of that). And for multi axis scripts, this means 2 mins of multi axis action (not just 1 axis at a time). Sure, if the action makes sense video wise you can argue that its suitable, but i think this rule is better as a safeguard. Since if it is well scripted, noone would realy notice its just 1 axis, and its then just fine. And otherwise the trial can be made 3mins long to be safe.
I think these are good points though I think this is a bit stuck on the semantics of trial vs sample.
The complaints mods mostly hear about are what I would call a sample. The beginning section of a video that only has some action and the rest of the video is paid.
This imo is an incomplete script which we have a category for.
I believe the goal is to avoid filling free scripts with spam and low quality scripts. I think we cant really go on time restrictions as there are plenty of quality scripts that under 2 minutes.
We can go on a case by case basis and say a script must have a minimum of say X% of the video of action.
Video with inactive areas would need to have 2 versions of the script with and without filler.
As for a trial/multi-axis scripts scriptors can advertise paid multi-axis in their posts as long as the free script in that post is a full script.
We might start enforcing heatmap previews as a rule btw.
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Are the complaints about multi part JAV videos or are the complaints about partial scripts for a single video file?
Please don’t start with messy coverage metrics. I think it’s quite clear as it is now.
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Paid scripts in the paid section.
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Fully scripted videos where the script is free (even if the video isn’t) shall be in the free section. It doesn’t matter if the scripts contain lots of holes as long as it is because how the videos were filmed, e.g. dialogue / kissing / guy licking gal, bondage etc.
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Scripts that doesn’t include actions for the whole video shall be in the partial scripts section (see exception below).
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Free partial script samples can be provided in the same topic as the full paid script and shall be in the paid script section.
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These multi part JAV videos are a special case. They should be divided between free and paid. The first video, if fully scripted and released for free, can stay in the free section while the paid parts stays in the paid section. You should learn quickly that this is how videos are released by most JAV studios (from what I’ve seen at least).
(This is basically the same case as your example with fap hero where the free first scene is free and the full video is paid.) -
Free single axis and paid multi axis need to be divided. No false advertising using multi axis tag in the free section when the multi axis part is paid only.
Am I missing something?
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This is the way, IMHO.
I don’t feel I see an excessive deviation from these rules. I think most people that “break” the rules are new people that haven’t actually read *(understood) them. We have a lot of users that English is not their primary language.
Guys (moderators and owners), I don’t understand something…
- We can’t post scripts in the free section if yours users need to register to download them. All visitors should be able to download easily…
I see - good. - Visitors can’t download free scripts from the forum without registration.
Not clear.
If you are in favor of the freedom to distribute scripts, need to remove the second point. Show an example to all other communities and to us, scriptors. But then there will be a question of copyright and many other things. There was once a precedent when a scriptwriter decided to delete all his scripts and got blocked, by publishing free scripts through third-party resources, the creator leaves himself the opportunity to delete them whenever he wants, because the copyright is his. By accepting your agreement, many will disagree with this - and yes I will think twice now.
P.S. A personal grudge of mine on this forum came to mind. When I was forbidden to publish my multi-axis scripts for a fee in one thread with a free mono script - it influenced my decision and now I don’t publish multi-axis scripts for free.
Someone did not like it - that he went to the link and there did not get what he wanted, how many were such complaints I do not know. Let the one who didn’t like it - do better, I will even actively help him with my developments
Although it is thanks to my Patreon subscribers that I do what I do (although I’m having a bit of a burnout right now). If I write the whole list of things I bought with the money that helped me and help me now to write scripts and create my robot - I spent more than I earned. Although perhaps in the opinion of many - I don’t do enough for multi-axis.
P.P.S. Uh… My point is this - the forum from a platform for scripters (remember the 1% rule?) is beginning to turn into a platform for visitors. And the rule explicitly stating that there should be no third-party links in free topics is another confirmation of this thought (It will be my cat, and I’ll feed it myself). We are waiting for ads to appear soon 
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