Again the same shit. Don’t ask creators to use their stuff… don’t think about copyrights… about the impact to eroscripts. Just make something… I am so happy, that the most developers here are not working like that.
@Faptap take all my scripts down immediately. And never do it again.
@sobolsdaemon1
Dude, wtf… I linked to bukkake.moe and pointed out that there were problems with the advice that he should look into it. I’m guessing by the traffic this post has gotten since then that it went ignored. I don’t get why people keep doing this to you guys.
The main take-away I had with creating bukkake was that at the end of the day people will still prefer EroScripts over anything else/
Also talking to the community and implementing ways to make sure scripters/video makers got credit, e.g adding a 5 second preview if the video is hosted on PornHub so that the video author gets a view.
(while I’m not posting on ero I’m still active, I’m very active on my discord though)
Some users just use bukkake to test scripts then download from Ero (which I never wanted to appear as a competitor or anything of that matter to ero).
I’m interested to see the route this project takes.
I’m disappointed that the focus of this thread has been taken over by the topic of crediting script creators.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. It is completely hypocritical that we literally share videos via MEGA amongst ourselves, link to rips and reuploads on sites like Spankbang and Pornhub, and share compilations in which the studios and actors involved don’t get a cent. Yet we expect the scripts we make to accompany these videos not to be proliferated in the same exact way. I’d bet my house that 99% of scripters have not paid for the videos they are scripting. Feels an awful lot like rules for thee and not for me.
I’m not saying chris1337 shouldn’t have credited the scripters or messaged them directly. It seems like we all agree that’s the polite thing to do here on Eroscripts. But honestly, I can tell you I personally was really surprised when I found out some people are really protective over their scripts. I don’t think it’s fair of us to expect people to know that.
I feel we should celebrate people who dedicate a significant amount of time and work (building a site like this is not easy) to contribute ways for us to enjoy this hobby. The point has been made.
Thank you chris1337 for sharing. Hopefully you can easily add credits and this topic yields only a minor speedbump in your project.
Sorry friend. I didnt want to ignore you. I saw your Post and tbh it was the only reason i checked the Website for Scripts i could know. After that i… Forgot your Post. Call it “Heat of the Battle” or “i am getting old and forgetfull” .
Yes, you are (at least partially) right. As i Said, i also think, that “intellectual Property” i Something that ist dead. I myself recut Videos without asking the Artist for permission. I know that this is … borderline illegal. But i Always Credit the Artist and Link to the original Post, If i can find one. It doesnt make it all right, but i think it makes it “better (?)”. But as i also said, i dont really want to Open that discussion up again, as it will not lead to anything.
And i think that ist exactly the right way! As i Said, bukkake.moe has come a really Long way!
Thats the Reaktion i wanted to warn Chris about. I think most scripters would Not have a Problem If they get asked, but you will really get people angry If you just reup it.
Tldr: still hoping the Project grows and get’s better.
It was only a couple of months ago another site did this, can’t remember what it was.
The bare minumum should be requesting the original posters permission before uploading (read - stealing) their content without a link to the creator, or original post.
You will find most creators will be fine with it, but not all, which is okay. But the creator should make the choice, not you!
@Faptap Take my scripts down until credit is given before reposting them.
It’s annoying to see some scripters angry again because ‘their’ script is/was shared again without ‘their’ permission…
Like they’re a king or something. You’re just making stupid files to jerk off other guys…
We all steal for ourselves and all illegally share videos with each other. What is not allowed here on E.S., we do on other sites… Whoever has paid for all his software, videos, movies, music, etc…still has to be born…
But then you will complain when your script, which only cost you some time, is shared without your permission…
That’s just hypocritical and ridiculous.
My scripts are also shared here for free on E.S., I think it’s ridiculous if I had to start asking money for that, but that’s my opinion…
But so… if my scripts are shared on other sites, I don’t care at all, I’ve shared it here for free so…
it’s nice that it’s spread even more because that’s what it’s all about, helping each other and sharing.
Those who want to make money again just screw it up again in my eyes…
As long as no money is asked and paid scripts are not shared for free, there is nothing wrong in my opinion.
It’s a shame that there is again arguing and discussion about something that has nothing to do with the essence of E.S. which is creating and sharing scripts.
My opinion on what will happen. Just to make it clear, because it is maybe to complex for the free-share-everything-in-the-internet-hippies.
Every site that provides scripts outside from eroscripts has a big impact to this community. 99% of the users here will never make a script, a big part of the 1% scripts are not enjoyable for masses. When sites steal the scripts from here and lead the traffic away from eroscripts, less people interact with this community and will not start scripting or make anything else for the community. Why you should interact? You get everything on a silver tablet for free. This community will die a slow death, because motivation will decrease among the people who provide the real quality content here. Some people need to realise, that the number of good and active free content creators is so small, that it is almost ridiculous.
Sites like scriptaxis.com are great, they lead traffic to eroscripts. Script streamer sites are nearly useless, even if you give credit.
I know it getting OT, but i have to Ask: What do you mean with that? As far as i Testes them, i could Not find a Script in Ero that was bad. There are some Scripts I cant effectiv use, as they are to “Hardcore” for me (looking at any shbek-“vibrating”-script), but even These are really good and i am sure many Users will enjoy them.
@TheHandyman First off, most people are paid for their time, not their actual work. I’m curious if you get paid per unit or per hour like the rest of us.
Second, it takes a lot of time to properly make a script. Even an AI generated script takes several minutes per minute of video. But there’s considerable difference in quality between AI and hand generated scripts.
Third, most people voicing complaints aren’t about pay, but instead about credit. Your comment is extremely short sighted. The piracy of the videos still gives credit to the studios but without pay. That’s not the same as what’s happening with the scripts where even the creator’s name isn’t given. They want to give away the script, but they want people to come back.
@mADsCRIPTS You have apparently chosen the right name, because you are clearly very negative…
The thing that drives people away from E.S. is if you have to pay for everything… Not if there are some other simple sites that also share these scripts, don’t believe that man.
Competition is always better, so the motivation for improvement remains.
The motivation to make scripts will always remain, some men just want a certain script. That will not go away because a lot is offered for free, or because a lot is shared on other sites or because there is less quality in between, not everyone thinks like this… The fact that the largest part is offered for free just proves that the motivation is very great and not everyone wants something in return for the important ‘time’ they spend on it…
You clearly think that very few free scripters are good and only the paid scripts are real quality. Most of free scripts are sh*t… Well…that’s your opinion, not everyone’s opinion.
I agree with you that a reference to E.S. definitely recommended.
@burningshroom Come on man, the scripting here on E.S. already start comparing like a real job…
If your time is so important to you then you shouldn’t start scripting, if you want money for your important time then you should sell something else…
And if credit is so important to you that you start arguing about it, then banning your shared scripts from sharing & blocking them, then you just have too much ego.
I certainly understand what you want but I don’t think you should make such a thing of it…
Again very short sighted. You’re the one that brought up money and yes it is the real job of some of the people that post here. Consider their free posts here as advertisement.
I get it. You give away stuff free of charge and don’t care, but they do. Asking to have their names attached is a pretty small consideration that takes barely any effort at all. In the event that they decide to make this an employment, having that name recognition would be huge.
@burningshroom I know it’s a real job for some, but those few professionals weren’t abused in this case.
I only speak for the hobbyists like you and me here. And like I said, I agree with what you want. Just don’t make it such a thing because it isn’t for most…
A lot has already been written here, so I will briefly express my opinion on the main points of dispute.
Firstly, about the use of other people’s scripts on such sites. Most of us will not mind if the site has a link to the author. And you should start by asking.
As for the use of pirated videos, I don’t think they hurt publishers that much. Those who are ready to buy the video will buy it anyway, and those who are not ready would just watch something else. So the creators of the video will get their money anyway, as well as additional advertising.
In our case, if there is no link to the original on third-party sites, then it is impossible to find out the author
chris1337 added more of my videos. I am against it and it seems he don’t care. What the admins / mods opinion? In my opinion he should be banned from here.
Sry @hugecat for the mark, I would really like to have this clarified, how eroscript handles it.
It looks like the site forwards to the script post and you can’t download the funscript otherwise (I guess you can play it but that’s pretty much it) so I don’t really understand what’s the whole fuss about.
But I agree that if someone doesn’t want his scripts on the site in any way the site owner should delete them.