FapTap criticism

Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it

@Faptap I cannot speak for the other creators, but I do not mind that my work is on your website (if it truly is, I have not personally verified). Although I do personally feel like you should at the bare minimum give credit to them for their work. Itā€™s no small task to create quality funscripts, and to rebrand someone elseā€™s work as your own is extremely poor form.

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^^ THIS ^^

@Faptap - I second Rustyā€™s sentiments. TBH, Iā€™d be perfectly fine with it had I been asked and at a bare minimum a link was provided back to my script index here on ES. But seriouslyā€¦ nothing? Thatā€™s really not a good look.

But if at any time faptap were to turn into a pay site (funded by either donations, subscription, or any other manner) and my work is hosted without my permission, thatā€™s going to be irritating.

Would you mind taking a second to address this line of concern? Thanks!

@sobolsdaemon1 - Good looking out!

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@achtstellige @RustySchaklefurd @sobolsdaemon1

This feature will be implemented soon. The site is still in ALPHA, so itā€™s mostly a work in progress (things are changing daily). The videos on the website are currently a proof of concept for testing [1].

Expect an update which adresses this problem within the coming days.

[1] for testing devices, different streaming providers, performance, etc.

Thanks for the response- I look forward to seeing these concerns addressed.

While I understand that the site is still in Alpha, I feel that a simple direct message via ES would have gone a long way towards ameliorating any concerns that creators might have when it comes to finding their content hosted without their knowledge or consent. As a creator yourself, Iā€™m sure youā€™d feel the same thing if you were browsing a repo and found some of your source code attached to someone elseā€™s project.

As an aside, the site looks great. Very clean and well laid out. Iā€™m excited to see where you take it from here.

-AS

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As achtstellige has already said, a simple PM would have been absolutely appropriate in my eyes, even for a proof-of-concept/alpha. As I said before, you can assume that most creators will easily give you permission to upload their scripts, but I donā€™t think itā€™s good to just do it (even in an alpha).
AchtstelligeĀ“s comparison is good. You wouldnā€™t like it either if someone just copied your website 1:1.
In case you donā€™t know: Both the creation of such videos (actors) and the scripting takes a long time and is quite complex if the result is to be good. Even as an Alpha, you are essentially committing ā€œintellectual property theft.ā€ I know intellectual property no longer exists in the internet age, and i dont want to open that old discussion again, but stillā€¦ Just not good sportsmanship.

I will keep an eye on the Project. I hope you/the project do as well as Bukkake.moe.

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And for a little bit of light reading before bed: Just take a Read through this. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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You got me wrong. :wink: I dont want you to do anything. I just wanted to inform you, that somone is ā€œstealingā€ YOUR Script.

chris1337 is creating a website uploading Scripts others have created (i pinged 10 creators i could find on his website) not giving any credit to the scriptcreator or the Actor. I dont know if you are fine with that, or if you dont realy care, i just thought you should know. :wink: I know from the ā€œProblemā€ we had with bukkake.moe that some creators dont realy like what he is doing. :wink:

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JFCā€¦ I never heard about this one.

ops missundestood, sorry
:sweat_smile:

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yeah. Was quite a chunk. But bukkake.moe has come a long way since then. I would even consider it the best free provider in this area right now.

@Faptap maybe you want to write @basicgirl . :wink: She can definitely give you some really good tips. :wink:

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Yeah, found a handful of mine on there as well. Iā€™m still on the fence re: how I feel about it.

Thx for the info @sobolsdaemon1!

Again the same shit. Donā€™t ask creators to use their stuffā€¦ donā€™t think about copyrightsā€¦ about the impact to eroscripts. Just make somethingā€¦ I am so happy, that the most developers here are not working like that.


@Faptap take all my scripts down immediately. And never do it again.

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@sobolsdaemon1
Dude, wtfā€¦ I linked to bukkake.moe and pointed out that there were problems with the advice that he should look into it. Iā€™m guessing by the traffic this post has gotten since then that it went ignored. I donā€™t get why people keep doing this to you guys.

The main take-away I had with creating bukkake was that at the end of the day people will still prefer EroScripts over anything else/

Also talking to the community and implementing ways to make sure scripters/video makers got credit, e.g adding a 5 second preview if the video is hosted on PornHub so that the video author gets a view.
(while Iā€™m not posting on ero Iā€™m still active, Iā€™m very active on my discord though)

Some users just use bukkake to test scripts then download from Ero (which I never wanted to appear as a competitor or anything of that matter to ero).

Iā€™m interested to see the route this project takes.

Iā€™m disappointed that the focus of this thread has been taken over by the topic of crediting script creators.

Iā€™ve said this before and Iā€™ll say it again. It is completely hypocritical that we literally share videos via MEGA amongst ourselves, link to rips and reuploads on sites like Spankbang and Pornhub, and share compilations in which the studios and actors involved donā€™t get a cent. Yet we expect the scripts we make to accompany these videos not to be proliferated in the same exact way. Iā€™d bet my house that 99% of scripters have not paid for the videos they are scripting. Feels an awful lot like rules for thee and not for me.

Iā€™m not saying chris1337 shouldnā€™t have credited the scripters or messaged them directly. It seems like we all agree thatā€™s the polite thing to do here on Eroscripts. But honestly, I can tell you I personally was really surprised when I found out some people are really protective over their scripts. I donā€™t think itā€™s fair of us to expect people to know that.

I feel we should celebrate people who dedicate a significant amount of time and work (building a site like this is not easy) to contribute ways for us to enjoy this hobby. The point has been made.

Thank you chris1337 for sharing. Hopefully you can easily add credits and this topic yields only a minor speedbump in your project.

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Sorry friend. I didnt want to ignore you. :joy: I saw your Post and tbh it was the only reason i checked the Website for Scripts i could know. After that iā€¦ Forgot your Post. Call it ā€œHeat of the Battleā€ or ā€œi am getting old and forgetfullā€ :stuck_out_tongue:.

Yes, you are (at least partially) right. As i Said, i also think, that ā€œintellectual Propertyā€ i Something that ist dead. I myself recut Videos without asking the Artist for permission. I know that this is ā€¦ borderline illegal. But i Always Credit the Artist and Link to the original Post, If i can find one. It doesnt make it all right, but i think it makes it ā€œbetter (?)ā€. But as i also said, i dont really want to Open that discussion up again, as it will not lead to anything. :sweat_smile:

And i think that ist exactly the right way! As i Said, bukkake.moe has come a really Long way!

Thats the Reaktion i wanted to warn Chris about. I think most scripters would Not have a Problem If they get asked, but you will really get people angry If you just reup it.

Tldr: still hoping the Project grows and getā€™s better.

It was only a couple of months ago another site did this, canā€™t remember what it was.

The bare minumum should be requesting the original posters permission before uploading (read - stealing) their content without a link to the creator, or original post.

You will find most creators will be fine with it, but not all, which is okay. But the creator should make the choice, not you!

@Faptap Take my scripts down until credit is given before reposting them.

Itā€™s annoying to see some scripters angry again because ā€˜theirā€™ script is/was shared again without ā€˜theirā€™ permissionā€¦ :roll_eyes:
Like theyā€™re a king or something. Youā€™re just making stupid files to jerk off other guysā€¦ :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

We all steal for ourselves and all illegally share videos with each other. What is not allowed here on E.S., we do on other sitesā€¦ Whoever has paid for all his software, videos, movies, music, etcā€¦still has to be bornā€¦

But then you will complain when your script, which only cost you some time, is shared without your permissionā€¦ :thinking:

Thatā€™s just hypocritical and ridiculous.

My scripts are also shared here for free on E.S., I think itā€™s ridiculous if I had to start asking money for that, but thatā€™s my opinionā€¦

But soā€¦ if my scripts are shared on other sites, I donā€™t care at all, Iā€™ve shared it here for free soā€¦ :man_shrugging:
itā€™s nice that itā€™s spread even more because thatā€™s what itā€™s all about, helping each other and sharing.

Those who want to make money again just screw it up again in my eyesā€¦

As long as no money is asked and paid scripts are not shared for free, there is nothing wrong in my opinion.

Itā€™s a shame that there is again arguing and discussion about something that has nothing to do with the essence of E.S. which is creating and sharing scripts. :confused:

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My opinion on what will happen. Just to make it clear, because it is maybe to complex for the free-share-everything-in-the-internet-hippies.

Every site that provides scripts outside from eroscripts has a big impact to this community. 99% of the users here will never make a script, a big part of the 1% scripts are not enjoyable for masses. When sites steal the scripts from here and lead the traffic away from eroscripts, less people interact with this community and will not start scripting or make anything else for the community. Why you should interact? You get everything on a silver tablet for free. This community will die a slow death, because motivation will decrease among the people who provide the real quality content here. Some people need to realise, that the number of good and active free content creators is so small, that it is almost ridiculous.

Sites like scriptaxis.com are great, they lead traffic to eroscripts. Script streamer sites are nearly useless, even if you give credit.

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