You can’t be for real. You can as well say that the lifetime subscription is free because it’s technically infinite value.
Sure. If that works for you
Just saying Thanks @doublevr - for all the foresight and investment into interactive to date and still ongoing
Thanks for also trying to offer and help customers find as much value as possible (like looking into getting Scripts Premium) at the same time trying to help us, fellow passionate scripters here on ES, earn a decent side income and living possible through SLR Interactive!
Almost all sites do not have scripts actually, and if they do, they are old scenes from years ago and I can guarantee the quality does not come close to our highest level experiences possible at SLR.
That said, hang tight for planned Scripts Premium subscription
It takes alot of infrastructure and investment and dedication to get to the point that we are at with SLR Interactive - this is only the beginning guys
Thanks again @doublevr for everything you’ve helped bring behind the scenes for the interactive community and industry to date, and all the exciting plans for the future!
Aren’t you official scripter for CzechVR? They don’t have problem offering scripts for recent scenes with the subscription. Unless what you are saying is truth and you somehow make the scripts there worse than on SLR? Kinda weird way to put it in my opinion.
That being said I’m looking forward to the scripts subscription on SLR.
I used to be yes @RotiRoh - this week was my last week there unfortunately (Ill be updated a few posts eventually) and no, I dont make my scripts worse anywhere (if anything only better with every new advancement in tools and tech)
The guys at CzechVR are amazing and we have a great relation, but I couldnt justify any longer keeping up that work there for what it was returning for my time invested, as much as I wanted to, and thankfully they were understanding about it
SLR has been really great with the support I could get there for my time, which means the world, since I was able to make the choice to leave my real daytime job to do this work full time now for my family and my future
I hope the scripts subscription works out too, thanks!
I experimented a little with motion tracking back in the day and I could definitely see it being helpful for cowgirl/reverse cowgirl sections in vr. I can only see where AI could bring it. And it doesn’t have to make the whole script perfect - if it gets most things right than we are talking about hour or two per script instead of few days for some cases. For VR it would be a great feature, but for 2D scenes not so much because of the camera movements.
Yeah, only Czech VR is an exception. Thinking about things like Feelme give me thrills every time
Cool that you are working on subscription for scripts.
Doesn’t VirtualRealPorn still offer full scripts with their premium? Sure they only have 176 FeelConnect videos but still, it’s nice that it’s all inclusive.
Glad to hear there is a script subscription being working on, always a bummer IMO to pay for a month subscription only to find out there is more pay walls.
But what will it cost? I would love to see this happen with the intent of making the end result free to use or very very inexpensive. Like 5 dollars a month. Then just get ad revenue. If I had the AWS or machine learning knowledge or a starting point I would put more time into researching it. But once the AI has been “taught” if it were my creation I would charge that monthly fee and let users upload a video a week and get a video/script combination spit back out of the machine.
Something along those line is what I had in mind and hope comes of this.
What I anticipate however is that it will only be used to make video/script combos for whatever respective studio can afford to create/patent the tool/concept…
I guess we will always have hand made scripts…
It kinda is a bummer. I swear it’s something with the porn industry, because they always find a way to get more money out of the content they provide - either by creating a hundread different sub-sites or by paywalling other features like scripts.
With SLR “cheap” montlhy subscription at $20 you have to annually pay $240, add a few scripts a month to that at $4.00 average and things go a little crazy.
Lets not bicker like children but I will use this as an example.
If I’m paying for a service, I do not necessarily mind paying more, long as I’m getting more.
However if I’m faced with two difference services and one cost $45/mo while the other cost $25/mo but with additional charges $2-$5 charges, I’m going to pick the $45 every time because I know what I’m signing up for.
IMO SLR isn’t very clear that premium doesn’t include the scripts for someone new to the site. So a new people signs up, notices they also have to pay for the scripts in addition to the premium and they end up not using the server as much as they would if it was all included with the initial charge.
As a business owner, I think an all inclusive monthly subscription would yield more revenue then additional charges per video.
I will admit that micro transactions have proven to work well with video games but the porn industry is notorious for paywalls and I think it turns customers off.
However SLR owner probably know best, based on the info they that have from their subs. This is just my 2 cents.
Good points. Getting into interactives was super experimental for us. We were getting numerous requests, but we didn’t know where do we start - no scripts, uncooperative sex toys manufacturers, no documentation, no nothing. We somehow managed to get things work and everyone was fascinated how good it is.
It feels like it’s just now we are actually starting doing things. There’s a ton of work required to get the whole thing work and we are on the top of it.
There will be a ton more of development coming. Stay tuned
lots of off topic comments, removing them
I’m excited to see the result/progress of this. Will you release an early build here for free when it comes to it?
I don’t think the time spent on scripts will differ that much tbh, but maybe the model training could help with atleast 50% of the time, and then you’d have to manual adjust the other parts.
For sure
More updates are coming
Well gentlemen I’ve stepped up to the plate as it’s a challenging and interesting/fun project. Stay patient, but mark my words, I will crack this.
Knock it down champ
Dropping my 2 cents here, having had some experience with training DL models and having watched a lot of comma.ai streams (George and the team drop some gold on there sometimes).
This problem won’t be easily (or even not so easily) solved unless a lot of resources are poured in (a potential workaround discussed later in this post). There are a few reasons I could think why this might be the case:
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The sheer variability of the number of scripters, which in turn leads to even more variability in the style of scripts produced. (The same video could be scripted very differently, at least from a machine’s perspective by the same person in a different state). This needs to be smartly accounted for.
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Since, the bounding box/masking approach (masking out genital areas or hands or whatever) speaking broadly is almost always going to be a limited approach (essentially you are cropping parts of movement that seem to be of little to no use), although it saves up on bandwidth/resources, it may not be the most reliable approach for the longer term solution.
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This is a quote from one of comma.ai’s chief AI engineers (worded differently), any vision related problem would be best solved end-to-end, meaning you don’t teach a human how to drive by giving it a picture which has labeled annotations of what is what and where (it is an endless permutation of situations). An example of this in the context of solving the scripting problem can be, that funscripters take note of other cues (often subtle) apart from just the bodily movement while scripting, audio can be an example of this, or a part of movement that wasn’t deemed to be of importance by the masking tool.
I do not just want to be that guy that who says this is not gonna work, without actually proposing something that might. And I think what might work at solving a problem like this, is the following: I know there are a few galaxy brains on this forum, who are actively working on solving this, do us all a favor, and open-source the components you have already built. To whomsoever is the creator/mod of the forum, we can probably have a dedicated section for this discussion, where people can share the tools that they have built. There might initially be a lot of LQ stuff, but in longer-term it should lead to a better result for all of us.
The silver-lining that I realize while proof-reading this post is that even if we don’t solve this problem really precisely, it won’t be the end of the world, as in the end it is just simulated sex that we are discussing here and not some really critical issue.
Hey! I was actually the author of the idea gladly I have realized that it cannot be turned into classification problem from the data that we have (that came after evaluating it in a first place). So you are right about number data problem.
Right now we decided to go CV way and you can actually see the progress here SexLikeReal AI scripting tool - #14 by Bruce
My plan is to add classification network on top of that. We will detect hands, mouths, feet etc and track them across the video (either tracking by detecting or tracking with bbox tracker). That should yield some reliable signals.
Again that won’t cover the 100% variety due to the occlusion, but I think we might get into some territory where it actually don’t whole lot of work for scripting.
If you willing to chat more just hmu philip at sexlikereal.com
I’ll reach out as soon as i can (in the midst of some work right now) and see if I can be of any help to you guys.