No problem, I almost did the same thing
I just wanted to get a little more clarity on the rule.
It’s starting to be an annoyance that so many people post in the wrong category when they can’t post in script request category. Maybe we should consider opening script requests for level 1 members again. Personally I think incorrect postings have become a larger issue than too many script requests.
just ban rule breaker for 24 or more hours
Ban or no ban, I still need to flag posts for moderation so from my point of view the problem persists unfortunately. However, I assume a 24h ban might be effective incentive to prevent an individual user from trying to circumvent the rules again.
Maybe reopen the requests, but give people a limit on how many they can post a day/week? I don’t know how the site works, so I’m not sure if that’s feasible, but I noticed that the biggest thing was people posting 4 or 5 requests in a row all at once.
Also, if there could be some way to force first time users to read a few sentences about properly formatting their requests, that would help a lot too.
Didnt read any responses… Why not just make the script request section set so that users of such level can create a topic and anyone lower can only reply to topics in that section?
That’s how it is now. Member level 1 can’t create posts in the script request category so they create their requests in other categories instead.
I think a 24 hour ban is a bit too harsh and doesn’t picture a nice and welcoming community.
My suggestion:
Lift the trust level 2 restriction and make it so, that a level 1 user can only post 1 request per week, a level 2 user 3 request per week and a level 3 user has no limits.
I don’t know, if that is possible with the forum software here.
I do like the level 2 restriction for the request section though. But unfortunately people always try to find a way to force their willing’s.
I do not think the site should be bending backwards for people that can not follow simple rules.
Just the other day a user posted a ton of NA scripts that were not his and without permission. If the community caters to the “bad actors” then and/or does not enforce the rules that are in place then more acts of rule breaking will increase.
@sentinel I can totally understand your frustrations and I share them as well but I hope you understand where I am coming from. Maybe they can grant certain users like you (Leader status) to hide but not delete posts until mods check it out. Until then I will do my best to flag those as well. (Your scripts rock btw)
@Slibowitz Regarding creating a welcoming community, totally get it, but don’t you think it sets a standard of behavior in this community? Lets be honest here, people watching porn especially on illegal free porn sites in general do not have the best etiquette or willingness to follow rules. That is what separates ES from many other sites IMO. Maybe if the user just made an account in the past few hours it can be a warning but beyond that I think a some sort of ban would be ok. I am more inclined on letting some higher tier users hide but not delete posts if possible but if that can’t be done then their needs to be some sort of check in place.
I do agree, but I still don’t think it justifies a 24 hr ban for posting a script request in the wrong category. Releasing scripts without the consent from the creator justifies a permaban without a warning imho.
Even though these request posts in the wrong category are annoying, they are not happening that frequently, from what I can see. Also the site in general doesn’t need THAT much moderation. And if so, get more moderators in. These posts will get deleted, the moderator texts the user, gives them a warning and if it happens again there can be more measurements.
I think it’s just frustrating in a way that anyone can flag posts like this but almost noone does, but a small number of people who care about / read rules.
Funny that you mentioned the user who decided to post NA scripts, beacuse it confirms this behaviour. There is literally a button that let people hide the malicious post, but noone pressed it until I saw it. The post was for over an hour, got like 10 likes and probably many more downloads, which kinda makes the whole situation sad - it just shows that most people are very disrespectful towards others work and just wait for things like this to happen. Some scripts can’t get 10 likes for days, but post a bunch of not your scripts and everyone apparently knows how to like stuff…
I personally think that restrictions or not it won’t change a thing, because there will always be people who don’t care about reading rules and “About X category” posts that are pinned in each category, which clearly indicates what you can and can’t do. We will always end up with posts in wrong category from time to time or request with only a link and shit like this.
Agreed but we should strive to minimize the occurrence. Otherwise it will embolden user to act more maliciously and carelessly.
Also, I am not sure flagging will immediately hide the post but I could be wrong here. In my little experience here I only saw change to flagged stuff once the mods checked it out. That’s why I am for tier 4 (leaders) users to be able to hide but not delete posts for those that break rules. But I don’t know if that is possible.
TL4 can hide/edit others post. I think it depends on the number of flags to make a post hide and I think it’s not some crazy number of flags required, maybe 2-3 (might be wrong here), it also help mods to find posts that are not following the rules.
Great! hopefully more long term users will use these features.
Isn’t it an idea & possibility (forum software ?) to have every new topic (no reply) of a level 1 user checked/allowed first by a moderator and/or users with a higher level, before the topic actually comes on the forum ?
That seems to me the only way to avoid misplaced topics and bad requests. And it also motivates them to reach a higher level because they want to see their topics faster on the forum…
did quick look at what is easily possible
@Slibowitz and @TheHandyman don’t think we’re able to make your suggestions work based on trust level, they apply to everyone
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