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The app should work for pay per script users as well.
Btw I’m actually donating monthly firefox, though I don’t use it. Some services are free, some are paid. There’s nothing wrong for services to be paid. I have like 50 active subscriptions with all the services that I use. It makes my life cooler without ever thinking of workarounds.
Hi @doublevr,
Thought it was worth giving some measured feedback. I understand that you are trying to move the company towards a streaming model (Netflix for VR porn i think has been mentioned.)
I do believe if this is the plan a few things need to be taken into account.
The technology from the consumer side is not there yet. Not everyone has a high end VR rig and the superfast broadband needed to stream the video and the script at the same time. Some places also still cap internet usage meaning a one off download is much cheaper than streaming everytime.
We consume pornography in a very different way to TV. It’s short bursts less frequently. If you can binge watch 4 hours of porn in one go you have better stamina than me.
The cost is a very different factor. Netflix is less than £10 a month and there is a big difference between this and the $32.99 a month for scripts and videos on offer.
The current model allows downloading of 3 scripts (or it did) there was no mention that these would only be watchable if a current premium subscriber.
Messaging. This site is one of if not the largest community for scripting and is probably the best free advertising you can get. Currently the official messaging feels defensive and reactionary.
Final point I promise. If interactive porn takes off some large companies will try and muscle in on what your doing. I get that you are trying to innovate to stay ahead of the pack as a defence but the best defence is a large userbase. Every webtech company that has succeeded has prioritised a large user base over getting maximum revenue from a smaller group. That userbase is also your best selling point when getting companies to work with you and its what will drive your value if you ever decide to sell the company.
Finally not a point but a question about the SLR app. I dont know exactly how it works and the costs to your company of someone playing a purchased or free script on the app through DeoVR. I’m not asking for an exact number, but if people using the app costs you explaining this may be useful.
If so the app may need fixing. It’s right at the login. It will only accept premium account logins and we need to be logged in to sync. The paid for scripts were not direct purchases to slr but to creators so my account was never upgraded to premium for that reason.
Seriously just put a one time charge on the app that makes sense. Since some people hace subs to the direct sites like badoinkvr.
The point i was making with firefox was you pay for what makes sense. Like you said it’s convenient for you maybe because you use it frequently. In my case it’s occasionally and that’s not enough to convince an average joe to pump $30 a month for.
Slr offers lifetime plan for 1000 why not 10 for the app? Multiply that by the users I’d say good chunk of change 
Technically speaking SLR app and Haptics connect is meant to be free for SLR Premium users ¯_(ツ)_/¯
There’s a ton of cool functionality coming once we manage to introduce integrity within a pipeline. Apple products is a good example of where things are going.
There will be also SLR Interactive sex toy coming for ultimate ergonomics and connectivity with SLR products.
Selling a separate app is like buying a ticket to war. It requires a whole dedicated infrastructure we are not capable of even at a thinking level. We are well overloaded now, yet we come up with simple and super efficient solutions. The whole tech is nowhere near towards what it’s heading for.
Just get Premium and be cool 
If anyone is serious about cash issues we will give you a dirt cheap offer. Just mail support. I’d really wish to come up with a way to make it affordable for everyone. Actually we are adding request form for custom price if you can’t afford it.
I get that it’s fun to dunk on slr for their sometimes questionable business decisions but this seems unreasonable.
What you’re saying here is that you’re not an slr customer. You don’t buy scripts or videos from slr. They have no responsibility to ensure their proprietary software works for non customers.
It’s up to them whether they want to make their apps accessable to non (past or present) subscribers and there may be valid reasons for them not to do that.
All of that said I to agree with almost everything @quiffed1 said. I think that rushing into a streaming only model will alienate existing customers that don’t have the infrastructure set up to stream at good quality and I hope slr continues to support users that need to download.
That’s very disappointing to hear 
I despise Apple’s walled garden and anti consumer business model
Oh @doublevr and I’d just like to say that your attitude in this thread has been very polite and professional
You should mention this on Reddit if you haven’t already, it’d probably go some ways towards improving your reputation there
I’d consider it if they fix the part where we have to do the work of downloading the script and setting it up correctly.
Stream live interactive with a 2 step process such as connect device and play. Then it’s worth it.
It’s not about affordability. Would you pay 500 for a haircut? From a customer point of view it’s not worth it. Especially that i dont use the site just the app. Kinda like morons buying gamestop at 300. I don’t like to be the moron.
That’s the current set up for the handy. Which device do you use?
As my original post i am set up with two mobile devices one for the slr app and one for gearvr connected to launch.
I am onboard on what you last posted. Which is why in my original post i was looking for an alternative. Which should be a sign to slr. If one person is posting it how many are thinking it?
On another note, slr is a marketplace where they sell other creator’s content. I like purchasing direct from the creators. So slr is more of a convenience thing but whats the convenience when most of this content is free from sites like phub. So to me the value they have is the app. I’m sure that’s not everyones position but i dont like to pay for a whole tuxedo when i just need a bow tie. Other than that your right it’s their business model and i am looking for a dev out there to make an alternative which i know one was buttplug.io but i am scraping brains out there.
IIRC the heresphere video player dev is working on handy t-code integration and that app is available on both quest and PC.
Thank you comrade! Never heard of this, looking into this now.
this is the heresphere discord
With thinking like that that exactly what it stands for. It’s like a drunk man explaining his wife why soft is better than hard.
Last I checked he’s trying to use butplug to implement that support so it will work for most interactive devices
Well this sucks. I’m already a premium subscriber but rubbish like this has me reconsidering that.
I am like many others that dont have fast internet to stream and consume all my content locally. I dont make a lot of money so buy only few vids/scripts when i can and use many that are free since i cannot afford much. I have hard enough time with all my bills, having another monthly/annual bill is simply out of the question. SLR has been pioneers in the space and what ive been using but this is a MAJOR step back imo for many reasons people have listed here. If this required new premium subscription stays, i will sadly need to take step back from SLR as well and stop using it 
Haha not sure if we are on the same wave. I guess I shoulda stuck with a better analogy.
I know I can’t talk you out of your thinking similar to try and change a car dealers selling aggression as to why I need fully loaded than the basic.
My comments are just my opinion and hopefully SLR takes it in to consideration and reconstruct a model around it as you can see some members are now posting they have the same issue or are reconsidering their membership.
Just like I replied to Inventiv I don’t need the whole tuxedo i just need the bow tie. If you don’t wanna sell it to me then I’ll find someone that will. Just in case my typing may come off different. I’m not trying to be a jerk just speaking thoughts here.
How about another aspect of this?
I’ve bought a couple of videos from SLR, and I treat the opening screen as a nice big advertisement for things you’re selling. I look through them from time to time to see if there’s anything else I want to grab, especially the interactive stuff.
That said, I mostly use it to play videos from other sources, especially ones that use Funscript (but also non-porn videos). It’s easy and convenient, and works. I’ve been recommending the SLR player to everyone - and I mean everyone - who uses Funscript-based toys like the Handy. I’ve even thought about the idea of a one-time purchase, to pay for the convenience. I wouldn’t mind that, if it was a reasonable price.
That’s not going to happen any more. I won’t tell people about it (except to emphasize how they have to pay a monthly fee to have access to the player), I won’t be using it, and I won’t be buying any more SLR videos, ever. I’ll use other players, even if they’re somewhat less convenient, and I’ll be supporting apps like HereSphere.
So have fun with that subscription model - I don’t think it’s going to work out as well as you think.
Just wanted to offer my comments as someone who doesn’t have a horse in the race:
Removing features that were previously available for free and making it premium is not a good business decision. Removing those features with only alluding to implementing better features in the future is even worse. Those features you plan on implementing in the future should be Premium. If those features alone are not enough to incentivize Premium access they are most likely not worth investing in.
You’re going to be outcompeted in the market for a player anyway. Someone will make a player that does the same thing without SLR advertisements and Marketing. You’re going to lose sales based on this. Testimony above predicts that as well.
I don’t own a Quest or a VR set up, but I was planning on it in the Future. By my prediction an alternative will exist by then, if it doesn’t already.
That’s not how it works. Player is a huge investment.
Skybox has blown a shitload of investment money before it got out of business downgrading from 20 to 1 staff some years ago.
HereSphere is indy. He does great introducing features, but it’s not sustainable, as the more features you introduce the more it takes to maintain them and less time for bringing new ones.
The whole tech is going to the next level. And it’s really costly to get stuff you need to develop. Really sorry to see how you guys prefer to fool yourself into the opposite.