Pretty sure illustrations are more taboo actually, considering how incest in porn with human actors is complete mainstream normie slop nowadays.
Normies don’t like porn in the medium of drawings or animation. Might have something to do with the whole “cartoons are for kids” meme.
Also there are a few things that irk me with discussions like these:
referring to lolicon as pedophilic is a super bad-faith argument as they are very obviously different things
referring to lolicon art as drawings of children is also a very bad faith argument, as lolis and children are 2 different things. and any drawings of actual children in a “pornographic context” are insanely disgusting and should be nuked immediately with extreme prejudice
loli is loli. child is child. grouping these together allows genuine pedos to feel they also belong in the loli community and they are not welcome here
arguments against loli should be stated as arguments against loli or the entire argument loses its meaning
probably yeah, I’ve always seen real actors engaging in that stuff more taboo as its closer to reality. whereas lolicon is so far from real its not even in the 3rd dimension (3D animation is still 2D and fake/not real) just how I see it though
The best video about the topic imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liTyA_bXvyo
i get where you are coming from but it being real people i think makes it worse… I mean the reason you dont like the drawing/cartoons of loli seems to be because it perpetuates a inappropriate sexual preference. using real people to me seems like it furthers that experience.
referring to lolicon as pedophilic is a super bad-faith argument as they are very obviously different things
I’m sorry but that’s utter nonsense. “Lolicon” is porn featuring characters that look like children. It is no less disgusting than child porn drawn in any other style.
“drawings of fictional loli characters is the same degree as child porn”
that is your opinion, a retarded opinion but still your opinion.
also I think lessening how serious child porn is by equating it to the same level as loli is complete and utter nonsense but hey
if it disgusts you in the same way as something as real as that, then okay cool that’s how you feel but don’t represent how you feel about it as fact
edit: I don’t think I expressed enough how retarded that statement is, a random artist sitting at their desk drawing something completely fictional and not based in reality in anyway, is nowhere near the level of an actual father raping his child or anything like that
Whoa there, child porn drawn by referencing photos/the real life likeness of children is far more disgusting than lolicon art that is drawn by referencing anime/hentai.
Freedom of Expression, difference between depictions of children or child-like character… we can discuss that all day long.
The fact of the matter is, that in many countries, downloading any content with characters with child-like features, even if as a thumbnail, is illegal. Therefore if this content isn’t hidden by default, all these people would have to completely avoid coming to this site, to be completely safe. Ergo: lolicon should be opt-in if anything, not opt-out.
Moderation isn’t censorship. If I start uploading multiple videos of paint drying to pornhub, they’ll remove them. Not because they’re illegal, but because pornhub is trying to curate the content on their site to appeal to a particular audience. Its no different to a bar enforcing a dress code.
100% agree, I was a user for over 1 year, and I just found out last month how to block all the “keywords” for anime lolicon stuff. But during that year, I was avoiding this site cause of how much loli anime porn was on the “new” list almost everyday. Now that i have blocked the keywords, it is easier to visit this site.
calling for something to be censored is advocating for censorship, lolicon is not against the rules here, so you are calling for its censorship. if it was against the rules here, you would be calling for its moderation.
you are using the wrong words to twist your argument into something it isn’t, and using incorrect analogies to validate it.
Nice straw man you’ve got there, looks real easy to beat up.
I never compared “lolicon” to real child porn. I said that being drawn in an anime style doesn’t make it any less disgusting than if it was drawn in a different style.
The people who say lolicon isn’t child related are stupid. The internet is socially conditioning them to like child stuff.
Researchers did an experiment that when pornhub started to release “step mom, step dad, in laws, family related in more of their porn video titles” people in today society are now more acceptable to have sex with your hot cousin, hot step mom etc..thats kind of fucked up how we got socially conditioned to this.
Same with the loli con shit, they might not think now “its childlike”..but later these people become child predators IRL
you called my point that was distinguishing lolicon from child porn utter nonsense, putting it on the same level
nobody said anything about art style, REAL children being drawn is child porn. anything not real is NOT. you either misread, or equated real children being exploited and turned into child porn/child porn being used as a drawing reference as the same as lolicon
child predators can exist in lolicon spaces
rapists can exist in rape-play spaces
future parents that will take advantage of their parental status can exist in incest-play spaces
(and so on, and so on, and so on)
there’s not really an argument to this as anything taboo will spawn bad actors
the only solution to this would be to ban everything taboo ever
I did.
Look, if you like getting off to pictures that look like children, I’m not stopping you. I just don’t see why the rest of us should have to look at them.
I don’t and I have helped ban people who used cp/real children as art references on pixiv, and sankaku. because it is vile
I also actively called for the blacklist feature to be enhanced because I agree, anything taboo shouldn’t be forced on anyone’s eyes.
your wording sucks though and your arguments are hollow and extremely opinion-filled (nobody cares about your opinion, you are not special here and neither am I)
you did call for censorship, idk why you tried to go around that blatant fact though lol
We can’t control people’s actions in what spaces they go but we can certainly control the front page. Nobody wants to see any child related anime! Keep it to yourself!
No big advertiser is going to want to be associated with this site anyways if they need a big sponser. bigger risk than reward
I AGREE!!! i have agreed since my first message in the thread!!! it should be nuked from anyones eyes unless they click something expressing they want to see it