Ferrari in an Alley: Why Content Can’t Keep Up with the Tech?

We have plans on making something to provide better feedback though I don’t think the issue is a lack of a ratings system.

I believe the issue is users who download something and add it to their collection need to be mindful to return to the post and provide feedback. Most feedback given is prior to actually trying it.

I’m not sure how to fix that.

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Nice, looking forward to it. Do you know when it will be ready?

True that users should provide some kind of feedback to it. But as you said, you can’t change this. Instead, we could build systems around it to allow an easy way of feedback and engagement. And some kind of rating system, alongside with a reaction plugin, could help that.

Maybe something like a reminder system that tracks downloaded scripts for a user? Like “Did you enjoy x script downloaded in the past? Don’t forget to leave an endorsement!” and have it display the few most recent posts where the user downloaded the script.

I’m not sure what database eroscripts uses for it’s backend, but considering it already tracks posts previously viewed I think it’s doable to add a new column to track user script downloads.

If you’ve ever used nexus mods they have a good example of this implementation.

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Make that opt in or hidden through another tab though. Feedback is nice and all, but I don’t want people to get annoyed the fuck out of that site just because they downloaded my funscripts.

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There’s always something to try but there are also some fundamental things we can’t change.

  • A majority of users are just lurkers and they like doing just that.
  • Not everyone like talking about their jerk off material.
  • Not everyone has a nuanced take, feedback, insight or review for a script. For some people, they have a binary like/dislike and thats the end of it.

At the moment the only way we can sorta see feedback other than users posting it, is the likes vs the amount of clicks on a script. We don’t have a star system or even dislikes to work with. But even with just the likes, some people will grab a script, leave and never come back to hit like, even if they do keep the script.

The only way to be able to change behavior is to make it easier like others have said, or have some sort of incentive/point system.

Like Im thinking about torrent sites like pornbay/happyfappy. Some people seed their torrents, but others would not do that at all if they weren’t forced to keep up their ratios. I’m not saying we should do this but they also give out points for seeding and participating in things that you can use to buy stuff like double leech/free leech slots or buying back dl debt.

Like other than wanting to participate in the community personally, there’s no other reason to participate or give feedback.

We already make script requests gated behind trust level 2, but a bunch of people don’t even do that and just post script requests wherever.

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I would just add here that most of the time, both as a viewer and a scripter, the animated scene here is like that because most of the time we don’t have much choice, a vast majority of animated content, both 2D and 3D is short form, from 10 second loops to 1-5min videos, so we take what we can get. If peoples favorite artists started to produce long form videos, you would immediately see an increase in those. The very few that do so, get immediately scripted, sometimes even the WIP’s before the animation being finished get scripted.

But yeah, i cannot comment much in other regards but i do think a major factor is the natural lack of long form content in general for animations, more so than it being harder or easier to do :victory_hand:

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So, the issue for you isn’t the scripts that are being made. It’s the available content being scripted? On that, I wholly agree, but that would require a change that I fear no one in this community possesses, unless @Slibowitz wants to start their own studio :wink: (please, just do it). I love the content that he chooses to script and it’s a huge part of what got me into this community in the first place after I stumbled into faptap after buying the handy for the first time.

I mistook your post and thought you were talking about the quality of the scripts, since you mainly pointed to the scripts in the original post, not the content. Unfortunately, the only content that can be scripted is the content that is available, and pretty much every type of available content you can imagine has been scripted to varying degrees. Personally, I don’t usually prefer animated content, though there have been exceptions, so I can’t confidently make any comments in that regard.

There are certainly jackhammer scripts because there’s a ton of jackhammer porn. Clearly, some people like it and I enjoy it on occasion, but it’s not something I’m in search of. It just so happens that the market is absolutely flooded with it, which makes sense for a wider audience who doesn’t use the devices that this community does. At this point, porn has been boiled down partially to shock value because the more a person consumes it, the more intense (or insert other adjectives) they desire it to be. Dopamine man, it’s a hell of a drug.

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Oh, I would love to make my own studio ^^ I have plenty of ideas for good videos. And all would of course be perfect for scripting and would come alongside a script. Maybe one day ^^ For now, I stick to scripting and make a video here and there ^^

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Kinda funny because that’s the reason I started scripting for some CGI creatros (BlobCG, Horny Herring, Eyro3DCG, BahamutZero) to give suggestion and also help in that regard. The thing is event those small animations take a fuckton of time, effort and money (I can’t mention much, but for some of those I mentioned we are talking a few thousand dollars to get something out, all included).

Also the reason I went to Japan again a few weeks ago and will also revisit once more in March for further talks with a studio and some actresses. I also met up with one JAV star (a smaller one though) and filmed my own stuff and also scripted that for myself to have something more special. In regards to studios I am not allowed to talk much, but at least I am trying to make things more interesting there or even easier to script in the future. Hope things will work out in that regard. But that’s only if you like JAV though.

For me I also often kinda like the jackhammer parts in the scenes I script, but since I got the Handy 2 Pro I also give the slow parts even more attention and enjoy them much more cause the device can handle those slow speeds much better. So if you use VR check those newer scripts out (especially the KPop Demon Hunters one or the new Genshin Impact one with Blake Blossom). I’ll also do some more 2D in the next few weeks, but so far I can’t really tell what you really would like to see. Most people in here already mentioned that people can only script what’s available and on screen and for real life scenes there is often not a lot of room for creativity (I am often trying, but it’s also tiring thinking up how to convert multiple hands+mouth or 2-3 people for a single line stroker). Overall multi axis is way more interesting for that, but the thing is scripting takes a lot of time and focus and AI just can’t get it right now. Not at all and it’s not even a big help.

I can also only suggest posting in topics or contacting creators on here directly and giving feedback or a nice compliment. I often receive DMs or posts in my threads of people telling me how much they loved XYZ and that always gives me a boost. So people should just post in creators topics they liked if they hope to see more of their content. That goes towards anyone else reading this (cause you already did that in here : ))

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I can agree with author to one thing - there is really many many many short under-2min anime videos getting scripted. And part of them already AI-generated videos.

i’m not totally against animation, but sometimes it’s hard to found good ones, in that many amount of similar and boring and too short.

Real content videos - have it’s own problem, it doesn’t feel immersive until it’s multiaxis, and multiaxis scripts kinda rare and harder\longer to make.

So only things left - it’s some CockHero\JOI vids, which probably not everyone preferences

Definitely! I started to work on my first full multi axis script. You can do a lot and I feel like you can be a bit more creative there and script stuff you think “just fits”. Depending on the video, the additional axis take as much time as the normal up and down axis. Very time consuming overall. But the result is quite satisfying. When you see how it worked out and how the simulator moves perfect to the moves, this makes up for it.

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Gonna bring it up because I literally just remembered but the events/incentives from the contributors in the community do really help. So quick shoutout to some people cause things like this do really get more people scripting/participating in the community.

Way back when, @g90ak had an incentive program where if you passed his judgement, you could script video requests of his and you would receive an OSR2 in return. I never completed it and eventually bought one but this really did throw me down the path and get me started on scripting.

@Slibowitz is offering a few scripts for the Script Game participants from his catalogue(I forgot about this one cause Patron).

There was someone else that offered exclusive scripts for people who had actually participated in a previous event(I think it was eventually changed to anyone who had recently done a script since the event was long past).

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Jumping in on this thread - haven’t read every response in detail, but wanted to respond to a few of your original points.

I’m not sure I wholly agree with this. I DO agree that glancing at the post headings, it seems that there is a ton of super short animated content flooding the community. But there is a TON of posts. There still are lots of long form quality scripts out there - probably more than any single person could view in full, it just gets buried amongst the flood of short paid scripts.

To be honest, I have no idea what you’re referring to here :slight_smile: A good script should be accurate from a timing perspective and muted OR exaggerated when called for. I feel that good scripters not only take accuracy into account, but also what the user experience is like. MANY good scripters here do this. I really don’t know if “boldness” or “surprise” belong in scripts. My dick doesn’t want to be “surprise” smashed by a “bold” script lol.

Again, there are tons of good scripts. I’m not sure if you’re referring to script quality, video quality, or both. But video preference is TOTALLY personal - that’s part of what makes ES awesome. You can find almost ANYTHING here with extremely little kink shaming going on. It’s super great and I’m really thankful that there is a little corner of the internet like ES.


Now, for some of my personal thoughts on the topic (at the risk of going slightly off topic).

VR has gotten a bit boring to me. It can be incredibly immersive, but the same angles over and over again have worn on me over the years. A few studios have incorporated mirrors and threesomes, but for the most part, unless it’s a girl I really like, I’m skipping.

The deluge of 10-20 second videos has gotten a bit annoying when trying to view the main page. It’s a big reason why I only release packs (or ultra mega packs) of creators that specialize in short videos. There’s some real talent and quality content in these loopable videos, but posting up 1 at a time really creates a lot of clutter over time.

Despite all of this, I still feel that until AI scripts get better, demand will always outpace supply. I would suggest supporting and giving positive feedback to scripters that you like and appreciate. Even creating a “brasilmas” stamp of approval to be handed out to scripts you like, may be more constructive in the long run vs. a complaint thread. Good feedback can be really motivating and help prevent scripter burnout - quality scripts take a fuckton of time to do. I’d guess than 90%+ of good quality scripters are primarily scripting material that they personally enjoy - sharing it with a thankless community can be really demoralizing over time.

Anyways, that’s my 2 cents, I’ll keep my eye on this thread and happily participate in discussion.

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Hi g90ak, thanks for your feedback! My point was actually about the videos being chosen for funscript production; I wasn’t questioning the encoding quality itself. I’ve been enjoying and commenting on the videos I like. I’m confident that AI-generated content will definitely improve soon and could be a real solution for the content production gap. It will then be up to the prompt creators to use common sense, creativity, and good taste to produce quality material, and for funscripters to select them. :wink:

I also wish there was an official feedback system in place. Personally, I love the depth of the Definitive Poll, but it wouldn’t need to be so detailed. It would be great if users would specify the device used, script feedback (intensity, detail, accuracy, ect), and other indicators (this made me cum, permanent keeper, finisher script, can’t make it all the way through despite trying, ect)

Note to @brasilmas As a creator that focused on accuracy and script detail, it takes crazy time with little feedback/reward. I also highly dislike the “jackhammer” and started to script the quality I wanted to see. I am not even mentioning AI script generators. Nuance is time consuming and users might not actually see the details in the heatmaps generated from the site. For example: I decided to show some different script points in my recent paid script which is similar to Slibowitz’s suggestion to have a gif showing the script. However, even with both the gif created for that script and with site heatmap, there is lack detail found in a carefully crafted script. The only way to really filter out the low-effort scripts would be an feedback system.

As for incentivizing feedback… this isn’t going to be popular:

  • limited free downloads for lukers
  • posting a set number of interactions with the site (comments, likes, links, ect) increases weekly download amount
  • completing the official Eroscripts feedback for a script gives unlimited script downloads for that week
  • creating a topic and posting a script to Eroscripts allows unlimited downloads for the week/month

Obviously these would vary depending on site leadership and whats the main interaction goal.

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I would heavily disagree to the enforcement of a system like this, it’s true that it would increase feedback just a bit but forcing engagement like that would easily lead to just bad/fake feedback, people that ain’t already engaging on their own right now, would most likely just go spam the answers without even using the script just to get through the artificial limiter and continue not engaging until they have to do it again.

This is just like reading the terms of service every time you boot up a game or something like that, nobody actually reads it, we all just skip it.

I personally always leave a poll in all my posts for the people to judge the scripts by themselves and inform other people of their opinion of the script that way, enforcing engagement on those situations / systems just leads to a bad user experience for both the general user base and the scripters as well.

While im in favor of increasing incentives for feedback, I don’t want to do that by removing features.
Enshittification has made the internet worse in so many circles. I took over the forum to protect it from that.

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Perfect, TwistedPythonVR! This would be another issue that follows the one I mentioned, which is the quality of the videos being used to create the funscripts. Certainly, fidelity, smoothness in changes of direction, extra actions, etc., are very important for a quality funscript. On that note, there’s something we haven’t discussed yet: after someone creates a funscript from a video, even if the result isn’t the best, it’s rare to see another funscripter redo the work.

I completely agree, if anything, my optimal funscript would be one I don’t even notice when using. That is, the funscript is so true to the source material it immerses you in the video so you don’t even have to think about what the script is doing.

I think you might be surprised just how hard it can be to find a quality video, that’s not already scripted, meets the requirement to make a good interactive scene, and
is a scene that most people would consider an 7+/10.

It’s not that scripters don’t want to drop bangers videos but that they can’t, there’s a surplus of porn available on the internet but a shortage of videos that meet those qualifications and are within the difficulty the scripter is willing to accept.

I think the reason you see so many short animated videos on the feed is because

  1. There’s genuinely a market for SFM/Blender/Animated videos
  2. They’re much easier to script due to repeated animations and therefore repeated stroke patterns
  3. It requires a shitload of time to make good animations from what I know about the process. Many animators choose to make shorts to meet the monthly demands required for their patreon based income.
  4. Due to the surplus of scripters wanting to script animated scenes and the shortage of animators releasing said scenes, you see the average quality of related interactive scenes drop.

I think the reason you see less normal content is because

  1. Difficulty is much higher, less oppurtunity to copy paste stroke patterns. This increases the time cost of scripting the videos significantly.
  2. The scripters releasing quality scripts who stick to this content tend to release less often due to the time demands. This creates the saturated feed of shorts.
  3. The scripters who do release 10+ minute normal content tend to want to be paid for their efforts, and are less likely to release free scripts.

From my experience in scripting here’s the average times it takes me to script different content, I only do frame by frame.

  • SFM/Animated 1-3 mins length: Stroke: 1-2 hours, other axes: 30 mins to 1 hour each

  • Normal 1-3 mins length: Stroke 2-4 hours, other axes: 1-2 hours each

  • SFM/Animated 10+ mins length: Stroke: 8-10 hours, other axes 2-4 hours each.

  • Normal: never tackled that long of a normal video.

Note that AI isn’t currently in a state where you can have it auto script a scene for you without heavy scripter interaction, I find it’s not even worth using for me. I still think it’s the future for scripting though, and that we should heavily invest in it’s development.

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