Handy 2 pro vs FUNSR1?

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Hello! I’m currently an early bird supporter on kickstarter for Handy Pro 2, but I recently saw some posts about FUNSR1 and now I’m tempted. I have very limited free time in my personal life so I don’t have time to tinker and troubleshoot OSR2 or SR6, but the FUNSR1 seems like it might just be the right level of easy to use for me. I just need to get off quickly when I have the time!
I primarily watch PMVs with Heresphere on my Quest 3 with funscripts for my Handy1 from sourced from this community.

Given my usage, I’m thinking the Handy 2 pro would be the easiest to use since I know it works directly with heresphere without needing to setup a separate server. I also like the (unverified) claims by Handy that the 2 will be quieter, faster, and more powerful than handy 1.

On the other hand, I really dislike the lag from needing to connect quest 3 to handy servers. When I use my windows PC I use bluetooth and it’s much better, but I haven’t found a way to use bluetooth with handy1 and quest 3. So the idea of a usb connection to the FUNSR1 sounds great.

I also am intrigued by the twist function of the FUNSR1. Most funscripts don’t have twist, but it sounds like I can correlate twist with the single-axis funscript to jazz things up a bit (I basically only watch PMVs). Do you think twist adds that much if most of my PMVs won’t have twist funscripts? Also how much noise does twist axis add? Would like to be discrete with roommates.

Lastly, I’m totally confused by the tariff situation with FUNSR1. Is my actual price of FUNSR1 going to be double list price on Aliexpress? Thank you in advance for all your thoughts & comments!

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They’ve posted videos and audio recordings comparing the speed and noise differences between Handy 1, 2 and 2 Pro.

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The handy team just released an update today/yesterday about how fast the handy2 is going to be (note that the non-overclock is not slower, it’s a longer travel):

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Twist adds quite a lot to a stroker, which is why a lot of people are wondering if the handy2 could have an addon that adds that axis. It can get intense and adds a lot of sensation so some people find it to be too much at times. The lack of twist scripts isnt that much of a concern since you can just link it to the single-axis script in multifunplayer. You can basically have it twist one way on a down stroke and the other way on an up.

Twist does add quite a bit of noise since you have another servo running and its plastic gears grinding against each other. You can reduce it a bit by using lubricant and the noise can be reduced if it is quiet servos.

I don’t have it but from what Ive seen posted, the FUNSR1 does have its issues since its not a professional product coming out of a factory like the Handy is, but adding even just the 1 extra axis is worth it for a lot of people.

Also you technically don’t need to tinker and troubleshoot with the OSR2’s that much if you’re buying from @Vespera or @g90ak. I bought from the latter and setup is pretty easy.

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Twist is a game changer, but mostly with slower scripts. Also in my experience belt driven devices like SR1 are not good for PMVs. I promise you after a while the belt will start slipping and you’ll have issues. I’d stick to Handy 2 or OSR2+ personally for PMVs.

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Something many people fail to consider with T-Code devices like the FUNSR1, SR6, etc is the extra software requirements. You need to have a program running on your PC to interface between the scripts and the device. This is true for ANY funscript - not just stroke + twist combinations. You need USB or Bluetooth connectivity also.

In comparison, the Handy (and Handy 2 when available) are controlled over Bluetooth or Wifi. With wifi, scripts can be uploaded from HereSphere running on an Oculus Quest series headset. This means no PC software is required.

If you’re planning to watch on your computer’s monitor, this difference isn’t as significant. But having VR with binaural audio, true 3D, and headtracking brings porn to life. Even watching 2D content is more immersive in VR because there aren’t all the visual distractions. And now that 2D → 3D conversions are becoming more common there’s more reason to enjoy porn in VR.

Having tried a variety of setups - including the FUNSR1’s big brother the SR6 - I can say that the Handy is much quicker to going. There is nothing that kills a boner faster than troubleshooting connectivity problems between multiple pieces of software.

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Great post. I’ll follow along.

I’m looking at a new device come this autumn and I was an early bird on the Handy 2 for the august shipment but then just as you mention the twist is the real question - no doubt.

I would say the dimension it could add is on par with multiaxis but at a fraction of the complexity. I also think USB (C?) would be a good option but the possible big turn-down would be how well integrated the hardware is when interacting with the softwares one wants to use with the device (just recently got Heresphere, might solve some of it but I’m not sure)

I’m at the moment using a Autoblow AI Ultra which until like the last 2 updates was working at a sustainable level, decent software integration with web2 and web3 content but last few updates more or less ruined how well the device is at following user commands whilst transmitting stimuli (they essentially ruined the on-device pause-button and with that the possibility for using the device for edging content) so change will have to come autumn - or it will become bothersome.

What I also prioritize are the dimensions of a device when stored, smallest possible dimensional footprint is definitely a priority. I think there being 3-5 piece modular add-ons that could be mixed and matched would make the device top tier (but I haven’t seen any such options yet emerge). Ease of assembly/dissassembly is for me a semi-priority. It’s fine if initial construction is more advanced but later reassemblies/deassemblies, fast and effective “click-and-go”, or perhaps something similar.

Discreteness (sound, size, “device-camoflague”, etc) is definitely a top-tier question. If there’s options for using the device in “fully assembled form” on a session basis and at other times there being the option of stealth then that would be phenomenal.

With this said. What options are there really out there in the IoT-erogenic scene and what could the device tiers be said to be?

If we are to help others and ourselves out in the jungle of script-integrated devices that have emerged, what would we say make devices stand apart, what should different users look for depending on what the prioritize and what device is better at what content? Any real gooner out there with a moment to pause and help a fren out?

I believe one needs to have tried at least 2 devices if one is to give a decent description holding some form of legitimacy in answering the question.

I’ll myself be at the sideline when it comes to having a go at answering the question since I’ve only ever owned the Autoblow AI Ultra (wifi connected) + Metaquest 3 combo with a plethora of software.

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For me I’d be hesitant about recommending you get an SSR1 no matter it’s version/iteration if the OSR2/SR6 are off putting to you.
Firstly the SSR1 or rather the FUNSR1 I believe is based off early alpha versions of Tempest Max’s designs of the SSR1 which has been improved since. I don’t know exactly the differences but it was only March that Tempest released the first beta version fully (build instructions and all) taking it from alpha to beta state. So it’s still most likely got problems with it that I would expect to occur more often than the OSR2/SR6 as those have been refined over a longer period and had more eyes and hours tested. Additionally the SSR1 uses a completely different method of movement via using brushless motors instead of servos I believe. So dealing with that when it breaks could be largely more expensive and challenging to fix.
You will at some-point need to fix the OSR2/SR6 as servo’s will break eventually (my SR6’s 7 servos have been going strong since I purchased it in December 2023 with one breaking within warranty) with the main problem with replacing them being you just need the time an patience to do it right…although I can easily imagine having an less cramped space that the OSR2 provides from having 3 servos makes it much less of an pain.

Now I have an SR6 and have still got my Handy that I used for a few years before upgrading and honestly both of them are roughly the same plug-in and play But Only After I refined both hands free setups so I can just then pull on my VR and know either wouldn’t go off the rails. Handy though I’ve had more random trouble with it but I didn’t try to use MFP (MultiFunPlayer) with it and instead Handycontrol so no idea if software was an factor though I doubt it.
The Handy 2 does have something that SSR1/OSR2/SR6 can’t do and that is it’s got battery power so it is highly more mobile than any of them although your hands free setup might not.

Direct connection via USB cable will make the lag be as minimal as possible though it is possible to get similar reductions via optimizing stuff if time and effort (on the Dev side) is done, as the Handy 2 isn’t out yet we don’t know if they’ve done this yet…however they’ve had problems with each API version after the Handy 1’s launch I believe. I think the only connection problems I’ve had with my SR6 is two at most and when I was still getting to grips with it but was solved via turning off and on again which due to MFP there’s no need to re-upload the script nor reconnect.

Twist or other axis is the reason you go for SSR1/OSR2/SR6 for me the twist added that thing which after I mimicked it with my hand I just knew I wanted it. I did do the other axis too but it was the twist that did it. Try doing it yourself to see if it’s really what you want.
On the side of if a script will have an twist version to go with it, due to MFP you can have one to a degree as it has a motion provider setting that can have movement be random, pattern, custom repeating script you make or use a script you give it. It can also copy the up-down script too and as it allows you to blend it won’t be fully the same. You can also avoid it moving when nothing is going on via toggling an setting where it’s speed is locked to be the same as another axis. (so up-down for you)

Noise wise…I can’t say but I haven’t heard people complaining about noise being an problem anywhere near the same as the OSR2/SR6 has had. It does have less to clinky clunk around though on the OSR2/SR6 the Twist added a fair bit of noise to it…so if noise is a concern for you (via someone wondering what is going on) then look into it further.

Can’t help you with the tarrif stuff as that is too in motion it is impossible to stay up to date nor expect anything published to be actually true due to the situation. This can be mitigated via purchasing from an USA seller or if getting technical/tinkering ever becomes less of an concern you can make it yourself.

Hope this helps but in case you wanting more information about this all then I suggest you take a look at this topic which well… the title explains it but I talked plenty more there about the SR6 and things to consider:

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Ah yes - thanks for pointing those out

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Nice will check this out

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Thank you for the detailed reply - this is super helpful. I am also leaning towards the handy 2 as the warranty and less fiddling just seems right for my situation right now. I will miss twist, but I fear it might be too intense anyway as I already have sleeves that I cannot use at full stroke length because they put me over the edge.

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Thank you for the pro tip on maintenance/belt slipping. I expect the handy 2 will be a much more developed product vs beta (and of course it’s priced as such, but I can afford the money but not the time right now).

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No problem.

MFP has an way to limit the speed the device goes so you can as a result flick it on and start edging if you got it setup right. I did though just find out from another user that MFP doesn’t work on Linux.

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Making a DIY twist add-on might prove quite affordable once the community gets its hands on the device. We already have the 3D file for the locking attachment, so someone will need to figure out the best choice of motor, controller board and connectivity.
Maybe the FUNSR1 2.0 twist module design will be adapted and sold as a Handy 2 add-on?

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thank you this is super helpful, and I do love the standalone nature of Quest + Handy, even if I hate the Wifi lag. I happen to have a bunch of 3d converted 2d pmvs and I love them. This is exactly the perspective i was looking for.

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The wifi issues with the Handy are greatly improved with FW4, although it has a few quirks of its own.

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Oh nice didn’t know there was a v4 - updating now!

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I found 4.0.15 - available on Staging - to be the best so far.

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Fucking hell that looks quick!

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Ah thank you! I tried 4.0.14 last night and it kept stalling on AHE’s super fast scripts. Testing 4.0.15 now and it seems to be doing great. Love the much faster script loading with v4!