High end VR headsets

Hey guys,

I wanted to open a discussion about high end VR headsets, for now I have a quest 2 and I love the wireless feature but I’m craving for a better picture resolution, the other day I’ve stumbled upon this :

and the features looks insane !!!
So what do you think ? Is it worth the price ? Should we wait for the technology to evolve and the prices to get lower ? Is there an alternative (cheaper) solution who is a step up for the Quest 2 in terms of image quality.
Curious to ear your thoughts on the subject :wink:

Their current release is at 2880 per eye and comes in at half the price. There’s also, of course, the Quest 3 at 2064x2208 and only $400. Neither are 3840x3840 of course, but both are a good sight better than 1832x1920 of the Quest 2.

Notably to run the Pimax ones you have to have a computer capable of doing so. I don’t know how restrictive the requirements are for that these days, though.

Yes I’ve read that the Pimax is quite heavy on the GPU but I think that for videos reading the requirements are different than for gaming so it would be nice to know what kind of setup you need to run 8k videos without lagg and fast browse.

Hello!

Interesting topic. The thing is, do you think that high price tag is worth it? ~2k for a headset is insanely expensive, especially when you compare it to a Quest. Yes, the specs are great and I bet the headset is great, but I personally doubt it’s worth the price. It depends of course and you may think differently.

Why I would go for a cheaper Quest headset instead of a high end expensive headset:

Longevity
Headsets come out at relatively high rate. Expect a new headset every 2-3 years and that headset is usually way better. So you pay ~2k for a headset that you may replace in 2-3 years, because something new and better came out. This only applies if you want a new headset every 2-3 years. Maybe you are fine with paying a high amount, but you have that headset for 4-6 years. I personally prefer to have a newer headset every 2-3 years, but pay something in the 300-400 range.

Setup
What is very important, is the setup. How easy is it to use, how fast can you start using it. A standalone headset is easy and fast too use. Turn it on, done. A PCVR headset always requires setup. Plug it into the PC, maybe plug into power, turn on the VR software (Steam), make the cable management and now you are good to go. Many more steps are needed. Are you willing to go to through all these steps every time you want to use the headset. I wouldn’t. With a standalone, you turn in on, go wherever you want, lay down, sit down, and use it.
A good comparison are the toys: A Handy might be less powerful than a OSR2, but it’s easy too use. Plug it in, connect it, open the software and go. The OSR2, you have to built it yourself. It’s not as easy too use.
Just because a device is better, it doesn’t mean you would use it more, if the setup takes longer.

Usage
What is it you want to use the headset mainly for? If your main use is VR porn with or without scripts, then a 2k headset isn’t worth it imo. Then a Quest 3 does it as good. If you have the money though and 2k isn’t much for you, then go for it. If you plan to use it for gaming as well, it might be worth. But imo, VR gaming is stale for a very long time. What game(s) are worth the usage of ~2k headset? I haven’t bought a (PC)VR game in a long time, because there is nothing out there other than low quality games.


What is very important, don’t pre order anything. Wait until it’s released, read reviews. A lot of reviews. Watch videos on YouTube. Even though you always should have in mind that the hardware reviewers got the device for free and may not have a neutral position. Best place for reviews is the vr reddit (/r/virtualreality/) for reviews from users.

Pimax got way better over the years. Their first headsets had quite some problems, especially the software was a mess. But Meta is way ahead of every other competitor in the market. Software and hardware wise, they are on the top. Yes, Apple is there as well, but which normal person can afford a 3.5k headset, on which you can’t really play or watch porn.

In the end it’s up to you. A cheaper headset, less powerful, but overall easier setup and usage. Or a very expensive headset, which great power (for now), but longer setup time.

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Thanks for that very detailed answer @Slibowitz !
You make some very good point on the usage features and on the VR Gaming.
And even if I’m on point with you with the idea to buy a new headset every 2-3 years do you think the step up between Quest 2 and 3 ( only for VR Porn ) worth it ?

Just for VR porn? I would tend to say no, considering the price of the Quest 3. It’s definitely an upgrade. I don’t have a Quest 2 or 3, so I can’t speak from my personal experience. But the screen is way better than the Quest 2 and the headset is because of the pancake lenses lighter. If you really just want to use it for vr porn, but you want an upgrade, better go for the Quest 3s. Or wait one or two more years for the Quest 4.

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I’ve looked up for the Quest 3s and apparently it has exactly the same features as the Quest 2 except a slightly better FOV

Yeah, there is really not much difference. Main difference is the passthrough and mixed reality, which is similar to the Quest 3. The screen should still be a bit better. Even though it’s spec wise the same, newer displays always look better than the old ones. But not as noticeable of course.

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Quest 3 for the win in sub 600 price range.

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From what I know there is two other headsets that are high end with one of them being basically only for companies due to it’s price.
Bigscreen’s Beyond Headset where you get an custom facepad and lenses made for you (swappable though) and is extremely light. (1k)

Youtuber review of it:

https://youtu.be/ZCXmv27o3AU?si=276YwqDzc549UPxJ

Varjo Aero which I’ve heard was the best at the time of it’s release for causing your brain to fake feeling stuff because it looked too real. They’re no longer selling them as they are now have the XR4 which beats the Aero but still extremely expensive. (3k)

Same Youtuber's review/thoughts on Aero and the XR4 one:

https://youtu.be/23RS3RAg16k?si=1V8sl8zLyN0IAzZf
https://youtu.be/WoiEhoxKXTc?si=TYDNgsMb6W9-nrf4&t=185

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If it’s only for porn in VR -and unless you’re really interested in passthrough- I wouldn’t consider the Quest 3S at all, as that’s pretty much the only considerable advantage over the Quest 2 for that purpose. The Quest 2 can handle everything you throw at it at this point (8K videos are no problem, and if you stream from PCVR then there are no limits whatsoever).

Now, if we talk about the step up from the Quest 2 to the Quest 3, that upgrade is in my opinion really, REALLY substantial for porn in VR. Not only the increased resolution and FOV are welcome upgrades, but the real star of the show are the pancake lenses. In the Quest 2 the image is crisp and clear only at the center of the lens (the sweet spot as it’s known), so if you move your pupils around the scene the rest becomes blurry. If you want to keep a crystal-clear image you have to center your pupils and move the entire head around. The pancake lenses on the Quest 3 -on the other hand- don’t have this issue, the image is clear all around, so you can move your pupils all around and the image stays perfectly clear. I have both headsets and that for me has easily been the worthiest upgrade over the Quest 2, it’s so freaking good.

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I’d love to try one of these. But for the price, I’m ok with missing out.

I have a Quest Pro currently and the image quality on it is already pretty damn good. Plus it’s half the price and can run standalone or off a pc. Really the only thing the Pimax has that I feel the Quests’ are lacking is the option to use lighthouse tracking. But even then the inside-out tracking has gotten near perfect these days.

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One other thing… only the Quest 3 and 3S can do onboard AV1 video decoding. Some folks on EroScripts prefer to upscale and encode with AV1. Easy enough to convert them to h.265 with Handbrake for most though.

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Yeeep, honestly if you get a decent headset for now like the Quest 2’s (if you didn’t already have the Quest Pro) since I would expect second hand selling price to drop, you might have it last till the new tech going onto the higher end headsets start filtering down. I still got my Index headset that’s now beaten in various aspect but not in an all together package yet…

Time to filter down I believe is at least 5 years out though…

The biggest problem and nag I have with only inside-out tracking is that if you have the controllers by your side out of view of the tracking then you can’t point at stuff. Same with shooting at stuff out of your view pre-emptively.

Quest 3/3S are still the best ones for all the things together What’s the best headset for VR porn in 2024? Meta Quest 3 takes top spot

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I use AV1 in Virtual Desktop to stream from my PC to the Quest 3, but to be honest I don’t see much of a difference to using h.264 or HEVC. I don’t know about that stuff though, I just read that since I have an RTX 4080 Super I might as well choose it over h.264 or HEVC since it’s supposedly “superior” and it’s available in the Ada Lovelace cards.

I like the freedom of the Quest version of HereSphere since I don’t need to worry about my PC in the mix. I use xbvr hosted on my NAS for the scripts and videos. But my Quest Pro can’t handle AV1 decoding so I always convert those videos.

This setup means I can add a bit of lube to the Handy on its desk mount, grab the headset and controller, and be watching porn in under a minute.

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I sometimes use it like that as well, it’s pretty straightforward indeed, but I can’t quite get the image as I like it with all the options available from Virtual Desktop and the Steam version of Heresphere to fine tune it in terms of gamma, color, exposure, contrast and sharpness. The sharpness slider in particular is not that good in the standalone version of Heresphere in comparison to the Steam version (in my opinion).

But yeah, the versatility that a Quest 2/3/Pro setup offers is second to none these days.

The Quest Pro’s display is a little nicer than the Quest 2/3 - HDR support for one. Better color gamut too IIRC. That makes some difference in the perceived video quality I expect.

I haven’t used the Virtual Desktop route much with HereSphere so I may be missing out though. On Quest passthrough support is also nice - did that ever get enabled in HereSphere PC?

I don’t think so yet. Since I’m not into passthrough videos I haven’t even checked if the option is available in months. That’s definitely an advantage for the standalone version.

HDR is a big plus, I’d love a headset with it. I’m so bummed that the PSVR 2 doesn’t support it on PC. OLED screens are made for HDR.