How to script the tip

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Oh, I see. You think people are adjusting their devices so the sleeve slips out at 100 because scripts don’t use 100 when they should. And then they lower the device to have a safety margin?

I don’t think that’s a ubiquitous experience, but to figure it out we could make a topic with different scripts. One with more varied range, less 100 points, and one with the entire glans treated as 100.

Then we poll specifically about users’ experience with how safety margin and slipping out differs between the two.
Maybe we could link to the poll topic from posts providing the alternative scripts in other topics, with permission from the topic author in each case.

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Again I am not really interested in the safety but feel. There is no feel as the device works too low. If you raise upper margin by 20% in MFP for example so its fun, you will likely slip when the scripter goes 100%.
Not sure if we should even ask to move margin up until the script gets more fun. Could hurt people. But if you want to with warnings use the link in the first post to the qweer Abella script and my fix.

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Currently the scale slider extends the script from the middle (pos 50). Since most L0 scripts are based around the bottom (pos0), it doesn’t work that well for the axis. See this post by Yoooi.

As for the topic I felt like there’s a lot to be researched and debated. Personally I felt like the specific device used would affect a lot of these decisions. There are devices that are a lot less accurate about vertical positions, hence scripts produced for them are also more fuzzy about it (cough A10 cough).

In the end I don’t think how to script is something that should be engraved down like Code de Hammurabi (I’ve done something similar in the past and have dialed down my tone a lot). Hence the staff notice.

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Tip correction can only be changed manually it, has to be visually evaluated what happens. Yooi is trying to reduce or accelerate speed though on the right side depending on what happesn. As I understand he has made several attempts and he does not like the results. But that is a different story.

I agree but this one is badly engraved in the opposite way, almost as it would be unknown that there is a shift between real tip end and 100% script.

I dont think its device related if a sleeve is involved.

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https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/amia-miley-hard-body-fuck-doll-oiled-up-fucked-hard-julesjordan-2015/280370/7

Tip correctly scripted, unicorn.

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ok yeah, as i thought. This is COMPLETELY subjective, this style of scripting makes the device go all the way to the tip when it should only be going to the rim of the glans or maybe to like 85-90. not all the way to 100. and then the couple of times he slips out, theres no way to feel that as theres no more room for the script to go upwards. granted you dont want to actually slip out, but thats why you find a good position for your device so that you dont actually slip out.

i definitely would not support this sort of scripting being the rule. its alright now and then, but it takes away from the realism of a clip and script pairing, they should (in most cases) match.

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Scipting as I suggest is literally never used but should be used 99% of the time.

Its just the opposite. Try qweers Abella script then mine in the first post and tell me which one feels more realistic. It would be unrealitsic at tip play but I explained that exception (first post).

They can not match at the tip they, are shifted by hardware. They always are. Its reason for this thread.

In my opinion its a nobrainer to script like I suggest and very objective. I gave my best to generally make scripts better overall. We are also turning in circle here. I repeat the same stuff over and over for the same objections. There does not seem to be anything to be added. I will ask to close the thread now.

Take my advice or leave it. Its not that hard to correct low tip scripting so please proceed with scripting the rim at 70 or 80% if you like. Wont hurt hopefully.

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All of this. Also kinda an ugly thread with saying “NO YOU DID WRONG AND THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY”. Uhm, no. It’s completely subjective and also depends on sleeves and how sensible you are. Correct scripts for your own liking as much you would like to (as many other silently do on here), but don’t force it on others like that. And tons of people on here dont even use MFP.

Also going into other peoples topic and “fix” scripts is pretty ass. Did you ask before that?

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I’m actually with @roa on this.

Because we all have different desires and sizes I think it’s best to script based on a full range and allow a user to adjust based on their own desires.

I have a pretty large member and I literally never get tip play so I adjust my device up but then I never bottom out.

I think the “Correct way” is the right way based purely on the fact that the “subjective way” denies the user control of their options.

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Uhh getting personal have to answer that.
Yeah there are wrong ways to script and there is quite a gold standard. There is no rule that you can not change a script and post a version of it in the same thread.
Happens all the times, like removing jitter, slowing it down, making it faster, correcting exaggeration, finishing uncomplete scripts. You would be right on paid scripts but I dont post those. No one complained. I would have removed it of course. The edits have a lot of likes.
Not agreeing with me means not having tried the two version of the Abella script of the first post. qweer is a damn good scripter, thats why I chose his script and he just scripted the tip as 99% of the scripters do. Fine you would say. Still my edit makes it night and day.

https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/the-best-blow-job-ever-abella-anderson/116792
fully scroll down for the 400U tip edit.

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Full range is one thing, reduced dynamics is another.
In my opinion, each section of a script should occupy the maximal range fit for the intended stimulation. But that does not mean scripts as a rule should avoid top points in the 90-99 range if the content and/or scripter intends on a varied top stimulation.

I do think the upper top points should in general reach 100, and exaggeration to push upwards is advisable when that stimulation fits the intention. But it is imo not wrong to have some top points only reach 95 in a section with a lot of top points at 100, even outside of “tip play”.

The user cannot easily adjust a script with reduced dynamics to fit their preference. But full range scripts, absolutely.

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I agree with that.

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Chip in to say I agree tip play should be scripted from 100. It’s up to the user to reduce stroke range in their player software / device if safety is concerned.

I felt like a lot of backlashes in this thread is just due to tones in the OP and the fact that this is posted under howto .

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For me it’s those factors tied to advocating for reduced dynamics as a rule and calling it an objectively correct way to script, regardless of any user’s preference. Reduced dynamics is core to this suggested standard and I don’t think it needs to be, not in the way and extent presented here.

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Just wanting to support @Rose’s and @GGOONNZZ’s points (well worded btw, with the essence of the argument) with some data from the poll now that it’s winding down.

It’s about half the people who set the upper limit in the upper half of the glans or at the tip and the other half sets it below that.

Imo this does not merit formulating this as a generalized rule, since half of the people would lose dynamic range/resolution/contrast/variety between actions, whatever you want to call it. And that does not mean only for tip play, but generally movements, where the glans or frenulum are involved.

And to additionally showcase the individual and contrasting nature of this, allow me to answer to

I prioritize stimulation at the glans over bottoming out. So I always set it up s.t. the safety margin is minimized (limit as high as possible). Scripting as suggested would make the script more enjoyable for you if you prioritize bottoming out (because it would more often reach the most sensitive parts), but less enjoyable for me and my setup (because of loss of realism and dynamics around the most sensitive parts).

To try and find the common ground here:

Scripters should script stimulation of the region around the glans with intention and think about what the stimulation should look like. This means that they have to consider some real-world safety margin, some amount of exaggeration to compensate for lag, the type of stroke/action to be emulated and a number of other things. If anything, rather be more aggressive with it than conservative.

It’s easy to see that nobody will enjoy it if an upward movement reaching the glans in the video stops at 60 or 70% in the script, right? And yet: If the scripter wants to accentuate the bottoming out, then this might still happen due to speed limitations and should be an absolutely valid way of doing it, as long as it’s intentional. A script will never be the same for everyone.

Never said anything to the contrary.

So was I :wink: Albeit a bit tongue in cheek. This being a forum about all kinds of sex robots and all. cough cough But I get that humor is difficult to read in mere text. Please forgive me, if I in any way offended you. It was not my intention.

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I find what is a major scripting flaw or pitfall that is happening with almost all scripts. I propose an easy correction method or ruleset some very few scripters already do use. Instead of acknoledging the problem, exceptions like tiplay or overspeed are used to brush aside and downplay the general flaw and the solution is ignored. If not accepted, the flaw will stay. Not possible to get rid of low tip scripting like this.

Second call to close the thread @VladTheImplier as seems pointless to continue.

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Bad, this is a 100 not 90%. Fail

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this is a 100 not a 90% - fail

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Hand not moving tip always clearly visible 80% the whole script runs like this - full fail.

These were just the next two scripts in my library that I edited.

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If the thread is not yet closed, and seems to still be getting input, I will add my thoughts. I feel like I would script the three examples you posted with similar values and let me add my rationale. The top two probably exactly, and the last is way open to style. “Fail” here is a bit harsh, but I have been reading with interest.

Here are my thoughts on the above examples:

The first one has her lips at an angle. If you draw a line across her upper lip, the top of the line is at 100% but the bottom is at the rim of the glands. If the scripter would look to the middle of the line for the reference point, it would be 90% in my script. Where I would put it at 100%: if the tongue is on the tip, mouth is flat on top, or for entrance or exit. If this is also the top most position from the whole BJ scene, then it could also be considered 100% for emphasis.

The second clip has a thumb on the tip, but other fingers are also stimulating the glands. The average across all points of contact, once again, is probably more like 80%. Now, if the focus of that action is entirely the rubbing thumb, then I would have oscillating between 90 and 100%. However, from the looks of the script, the hand is on it’s way up from the base and the thumb points up. Seems like a rubbing thumb on the tip is not the main focus. (I could be wrong here as I don’t know the video)

The last one is obviously the most difficult to hold a hard and fast line. It is the trickiest thing to script… HJ and BJ at the same time. This is probably the area where there should be the most artistic interpretation. Things I would consider: Is the HJ more dominating? It is mostly an Oral scene with a steady hand holding the base? BJ has more sensation (should have priority in my book), but maybe this actress never gets past the glands for 20 minutes and it would make an underwhelming section.

I do think this is a valuable topic to talk about. I appreciate the dialog and hope to hear more from other users and creators.

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