Beautifully put. That’s what I mean by the details not translating enough and generating contrast between actions at this part.
It’s for that reason I setup my OSR trying to minimize the safety margin, but it will never be exactly 0%, but more realistically maybe 5%. It might be interesting to do a poll to see how people set up their devices to see how relevant this issue is.
And we’re discussing all of this while having the idea of the viewer sitting locked in one place all the time. What if he wants to engage in additional play with the help of clenching and hip thrusts for added stimulation? And then raising his stroker mount/desk maybe even… a bit above the tip? So that it does slip out if you go down, encouraging to hold that milking position.
What if he has an accompanying vibrator funscript (or even playing patters of it’s own) that forces him into that position?
Once again - a matter of each one’s individual playstyles and preferences.
Let the scripters explore their creative freedom, and if you liked it how the script was handled - share it to encourage others to learn.
Well guys yes there is an idea behind all this. The idea is the tip is scripted wrong by almost all of you scripters. Its a pitfall I was in as well just as underexaggeration. Badly scripted in a way it can not be fixed by MFP settings or other players. So this is not preference, its because script and Hardware setup difference in height can not be ignored. The script reaches the very tip, the sleeve never does, only before slipout.
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The example Rando shows is a bad one as it seems that it is tip play. So it plays above the 100% at unscriptable 120%. So yeah this is an exception, go 100% as everything above rim should be 100% and of course do not flatline at 100% just because action stays over the rim. For tip play you go down to 90, 80 even 70% and back to 100%. As log as tip play runs treat the very tip as 100%.
Rando also wants artists choice on how to script. Yeah sure but we need some rules a script is good. At every event these rules are tested. Are the turning point acurate, is it exaggerated downwards enough. You dont have to follow them but this, the rim rule is one of them.
So why the rim? Its not my idea to go 100% if you see the rim is often said in the forums way before my time. It has not been explained why and is not followed when scripting. Just below the rim is the male G point, when scripting treat it as a button. If at a HJ or BJ the button is not pressed aka the 100% is not reached you loose stimulation that you would get IRL. Like the Qweer Abella script that not even comes close to the button. And again: can you fix a badly scripted tip by software/hardware upper range settings to get the button ivolved? No you can not, you will slip out if the scripter goes 100%. The way around, if the script is scripted like I ask for, can it be lowered for specific sleeves and hardware. Yes it can.
There are special ocasions like Randos tip play. For example some female actors explicitly dont pass the rim in HJ. They dont want to fully stimulate, they do not want to press the button to tease. In that case go 90% or lower. No full stim by hardware just as intended by the actor.
There are male actors who want to stimulate the button at missionary or doggy and you can see the rim. If you dont go 100% there and press the button with your script you loose the intended effect.
Rim is 100% if involved visible or not, get the fuck up there.
The way im reading this, is that you want (no matter whats happening in video) the tip to be unscripted? or rather, you want your ridge to be inside your toy at all times? thats how this reads, which i disagree with. thats a huge disconnect from what could be happening in ANY video.
In your scenario as i understand it, lets say its a HJ/BJ scene, if she was sucking the tip while giving a HJ, you think only the HJ should be scripted because you dont want your device to go above your ridge?
correct if its wrong, but from all ive read here, thats the only conclusion i can get to…
How do you script 120%? The stroker moves from 0-100 so beyond 100 there is no more range.
Thats my point you can not but that is where the very end of the tip is. The hardware and the script are shifted dwonwards. You have to get higher than you see. If you get even lower for whatever reason, then in my opinion you fuck up the script.
No. If its tip play script 100-80%. HJ Blowjob that involve the tip rim automatically go 100% that is what I ask for good scripting. See unicorn @SaekoM example he posted he scripts the tip perfectly. Try and see Qweers Abella script in the first post to see what is going wrong generally with scripting the tip. The guy is a masterscripter after all.
I went ahead and made a poll to get some more objective data to guide the discussion. If you haven’t yet, please help us out by filling out the poll:
SCRIPT the tip???
Pssssshhhhttt..I’m wanting to know how to GET some tip…
100% in script = male G-point which is at tip rim.
@randomus your poll: so they set the safety just over the funpoint as I thought. That is 100% script for them. This means to pass or even reach the funpoint you need to get to 100% in the script. At 90% script you may barelly get to it at 80% you never get to it. That is exactly the case in Qweers Abella script.
Evy just for you
Here’s a tip 
: Depending on the kind of tip you wanna get… a good script might still be necessary 
Quite the opposite as it stands now:
Let’s hold off with a definitive answer until more people take part in the poll. If we look at the preliminary results right now (54 votes), 59% seem to set it at the very tip or in the upper half of the glans (that’s more than “just over the funpoint”), 16% in the lower half. Only 24% put it at the rim, as you suggested. That means that for 59% of these people your rule would unnecessarily take away dynamic range as @StyleMavin aptly described it in his comment, while it helps 24%, maybe 40% if we’re generous.
But even if it was 50/50, I don’t think this merits making the rule as restrictive as you are suggesting with taking away 20% of dynamic range for everyone. We can have a general discussion about exaggerating movements appropriately, i.e. to hit that point with intention, while allowing for different styles and personal preferences. I’m sure there’s people who would enjoy the style you’re proposing, but to me a hand reaching the rim should not be the same as one going to the very tip.
Yes it absolutely has to if it passes the rim, not if it just reaches it. So on its way out you see the rim it passed the point. If a hand job goes over the rim go 100%.
Never suggested that. I said they set it lower than the tip. I never said the 100% script is where the people set their security upper range to.
You are quite a pain in the ass my friend for someone whom I told how to script for weeks to be honest. But at the end I am doing it again, right now!
So as a rule of thumb to make this easy to script the tip well:
HJ/BJ
goes to rim: script 90% (actor wants to tease)
goes past rim: 100%
tip play: this is an exception, treat very end of tip as 100% go down 90% or 80%
HJ+BJ if you feel tip is invisibly involved go 100%. Hand goes to rim while mouth is on go 100%
too fast: stay with the rules above and cut lower turning points if tip is involved, go 100%
Regular action
tip is not visible but pulls it far out <90%
tip gets visible, means rim crossed → get to 100%
too fast: stay with the rules above and cut lower turning points if tip is involved, go 100%
Hey…I think I have produced ENOUGH good scripts over the past 5 years…
PLEASE? 
No idea sweety, did not come across a script of yours to edit. But bad tip - bad script. Like this one I am correcting next.
done
Check out the difference. Should be day and night. He did script correctly at about minute 10-11.
This was my last tip edit for the forum. Learn it or leave it if you disagree.
uhhh…i am talking about getting TIP irl… 
girls are horny nowadays 
Well well, seems quite hard to crack this nut, a scripting pitfall that is unrecognized for years. I have hoped to change this by correcting scripts and showing the difference but I guess not many people use both scripts. Either they use mine directly or continue using the boring one that leaves the tip out completely on the hardwareside even if involved in the flic. Thanks god this is fixable in about 15 minutes per script.
Changed first post with suggestion on howto for this rule.
Edit: just coming back from Randos poll to see results. Many set the safety even lower than I expected. If they put the safety at the rim the script will practically never cross the button/male G-point. My take: This comes from the fact that almost all scripts are badly scripted tipwise and had people slip out forcing the safety (upper range) lower and lower. Bad tip scripting means the safety needs to be low. With scripting the tip with my rules the safety can be set very close to the tip point without slipout as the user will not try to feel more by moving the upper range upward.
I’m suspecting it has more to do with the geometry of sleeves and variability of an erection rather than the qualities of scripts.
No using these general rules script the tip well and hardware can be chosen and software can be set. With bad scripting there is no way up. If you do you slip out so its not clever to script like that.
Use Queers Abella script and set upper margin higher in the funzone, good look staying in. Setting the motion lower is possibe with any script good and bad.
I don’t really see how the script would have that much impact on people slipping out, compared to other factors.
The major factor is scripting the tip, not leaving it out. The slipout is a bad sideeffect if the user tries to raise the upper margin so the sleeve travels higher. If scripted as suggested in this thread the user will not want to raise the margin.
