Multiple states now

just in case people didn’t know about this, pornhub is blocked in multiple states now, when you go to the site you get this::

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If you use pornhub youre doing it wrong.

I understand it’s more about the underlying meaning of it all. But I mean I dont think there is anything lost there. Government shouldnt be raising kids anyways.

Idd, where is the parent responsibility?

Anyways, just use VPN and the block is gone.

Government overreach is getting bad.
Unpopular opinion.
Your parents should introduce porn to you before you find it yourself.

I grew up in a very sex positive home, and my mom gave me porn mags and taught me that porn was fantasy and not real. It framed porn in my life as not a replacement for real meaningful relationships and as a result, although I love porn and clearly is a big part of my life now, It’s not a problem like it is for many. This also taught me that sex wasnt shameful, or taboo and should be enjoyed in the many forms it takes.

I think I have a very healthy relationship with porn and really its thanks to having a mother that didnt shelter me from things. I have a loving wife I can share my collection with. We make our own porn and put it in our collection.

It upset me when in my previous relationships they wouldnt want me to consume porn. I never realized how taboo it was to others and had explain what they were asking me to do was equivalent to quitting video games. Which is patently ridiculous.

TL; DR
Government needs to chill porn is only bad when it becomes an addiction, much like video games or drugs.

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I know enough religions in which you would never find it then.

Sure, parents should at least take a reasonable effort in making sure you arent gonig to find it too early. But to state parents need to introduce you i disagree. If you are at an old enough age, there is no problem if friends introduce it to you.

Its known that government and religions have very similar behaviour in how they want to enforce their power upon their people. When people have power, they are too likely to use that power to get their own ideas through, rather than using it for what is good for the people.

Any power given to them that allows them to control people in similar ways is often only going to backfire. While VPNs might be allowed now, dont be surprised that in a few years even VPNs will be blocked unless they implement a blacklist system. Its a route that must be avoided at all costs, and yet, there are already enough politicians that want to have this.

Religion is on that often worse, because unlike governments which have a terrible reputation and can often be punished (people lose their power), religion often doesnt invovle such control system. This is why its a good thing that governments at least promote schools to teach some sexual basics, religion might not do this essential task (and yes, this includes teaching the use of a condom).

You havent said the harm in parents introducing it.
I also am very aware not every kid has parents, or reliable parents. I simply think if the opportunity presents itself a parent should teach their kids about porn. I was introduced around 7.

My dad also had me using power tools around that age.
One of the first skills I learned was how to use a knife. I was like 3.

Children are far more competent than people realize. You just need to invest in the time, energy, and safety.

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That i agree with.

But as the thread was about preventing any revealing of porn, you can be sure parents arent reliable either.

(also, sex and porn is 2 different things. learning about sex existing at 7 is fine, but to learn about porn existing i would wait to like 13. and even then teach them its not normal, and tell them to wait until 18 before they watch it. i know they prob wont, but that way they know its not the basic way for sex. Whether they will obey is something you have no control of, but you can tell them the border at least.).

While porn used to be quite mild, the internet has made a lot more extremes a lot easier to be found. And a lot of parents arent aware of this. Even if you are only like 30, the porn of 10y ago is very diffirent. Tiktok is setting the standard now, and being just short clips, you can be sure they are nearly always the more extreme cases (although, blowjob wise, i wish it was the standard :stuck_out_tongue: ).

Another thing that i dislike about this law is that it’s forcing sites to verify a user age by uploading your id or taking a selfie to a third party site that claims that your data is protected, but we all heard that before. I can already see an scenario where you are fired from a job because of your porn preferences.

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I am very much of the opinion that government is overreaching with this. And I agree with Vlad’s comments on parental responsibility and sex positive attitudes.

It isn’t quite this simple. I live in Texas. I had to work hard to find a VPN provider that would work with my NAS where my xbvr install is hosted. I then found that some sites - NaughtyAmerica - wouldn’t work with a VPN. I then had to purchase a dedicated IP to bypass that restriction so I wouldn’t have to manually stop the VPN to add their content.

I use a reputable provider, but the VPN still slows downloads versus my “naked” 1Gbps Internet connection.

Also, the implementation of these blocks is broken on some sites. Even if you have an account the geoblock is setup in such a way that it prevents logins.

The tech needs to catch up a bit here to make this a less painful experience.

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Which if they do, just gets blocked by law. The inconvenience is the only reason why they can get away with it.

Now they can say they do try to hinder it, but if they give you an easy way to circumvent it, they cant use that excuse anymore. And as a result, they will now be forced to implement better detection, or get an even harder block.
Or the VPNs get targeted here to be forced to block anyone from texas to connect to such sites.

While normaly on the internet the rule is basicly that content cannot be blocked, for bigger companies that isnt the case and they can easily be blocked through law.

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You make some good points. What I was referring to with my comment was the fact that the porn sites geoblock tech needs to be updated to allow legitimate adult customers onto the sites. There are several sites today that don’t allow logins from geoblocked locations.

Presumably because they lack the identity verification service, which is where the tech has to catch up.

Whether we as consumers want our personal information on a third party verification site for pornography is another issue that @jwill brought up. It is a major concern, but the state legislatures passing these verification laws don’t actually care about solving it. They are trying to punish porn consumers - not actually protect anyone.

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The answer is very simple: we not only dont want it. In many countries its highly illegal to even require. It would take serious law changes to enable this. WW2 has learned a very important thing: anything that can lead towards identifying religion, unless unavoidable (if you go to a site to sign up for a christian event, you cannot keep religion vague anymore), must be banned.

Porn identifies which religions arent possible for some people. Which makes it tracking, but as the site has nothing to do with religion, tracking such thing is illegal in the EU (dont know of the US).

The entire sue mentality in the US is the reason why these sort of laws are even possible to be accepted. If you disagree, you can fight it in court. As when its bad, it will be reverted anyway. No need to test the laws beforehand, just push them through. But yeah, lawsuits are very expensive, and practicaly only possible for companies.

And then you are still going to have to rely on judges, and in texas you know you will lose, so you must take it nationaly (becomes even more expensive). For most companies its cheaper to just ditch texas.

Thats the real flaw. The only part where tech has to catch up is developing a VR headset for those texas people that want to ban porn, so it blocks it all right before their eyes.

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My simple solution is to find other sources for the videos I want to watch. This limits my selections some. but it is not worth the risk of loosing my control over a little of my personal data. Actually I just hate when others try to control me.

By the way, Uzbekistan routing on my VPN does work sometimes. Here in Kansas porn sites are not blocked but they require the id verification by 3rd party. :roll_eyes:.

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I didn’t realize until i tried using a vpn that my toy will go in and out of sync because of the latency which means faptap is out

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This doesn’t help in that situation, but might help someone else.

I use Edge as my browser - but my porn browser is the “dev” version, so I have a completely separate instance. This would also work with Chrome, since there is a beta version available.

In this separate browser I use the browser extension provided by my VPN provider. That way only the specific browser instance is affected by the extra latency.

I am viewing my porn from my local xbvr over wifi directly to my headset - no VPN.

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All info is good info

Which means that faptap will probably still break with latency then.

I still think the best solution would be to have all playback local. And this does include the loading/parsing/executing of scripts. Here tools like scriptplayer, handycontrol or multifunplayer might work better, as they only need to get a timecode from the video player to move to it. If faptap could trigger those commands from the browser then it would seriously help.

The only downside could be a browser plugin requirement, which vpn wise is normaly not very recommended for several reasons. But yeah, with completely seperate browsers, that problem isnt realy there (except if the browser plugin is malware).

Or you localy download the videos with a browser plugin and do local playback. Its also not legal, but hey, they made the porn illegal anyway… downloading from pornhub while not nice is at least still nicer than that law they introduced.

It is possible to play scripts locally with HereSphere + ScriptPlayer. I find it inconvenient to need software on the PC and headset though, so I’ve stuck with Handy wifi.

Autoblow (the device I have) only allow it to connect to its online video player and faptap/slr as of right now.
((side tangent))
i really wish the autoblow had the integrations of the handy, and i wish the handy was as robust(?!) as the autoblow.

I find it very interesting that in all the discussion of pornography bans, a lot is said about “The Government” making these measures.

It’s not “The Government”. It is one group of people, represented by a specific party, who holds power in many states and soon the federal government in the US.

It’s all too coincidental that the people on this site who “shouted” down the reports on this site, of future pornography bans as fake news or “it won’t happen”, are all too eager to blanket blame “The Government” instead of the party which is fully responsible for the current set of bans.

In my state, we have a veto-proof legislature, with just a governor and a single state supreme court position standing against these same bans. And like a few other states, we have another court election coming in April which could lose that court advantage, leaving one more state under this bullshit.

Yes, requiring a person submit personal identification which is then stored, to access adult entertainment is a ban. Especially considering that the incoming federal administration is working off an agenda which wants to declare all pornography illegal. And, to declare all LGBTQ+ persons as pornographic.

This is not “fake news”. Your identification associated with pornography in the hands of a hostile state or federal government means that now an authority has leverage over you. Get kettled in a protest or get arrested in a picket line? Post something online, critical of police in your city? Guess what.

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