Proposal of new tag for real porn

There’s this discussion from the link above that happened a long time ago. I’m writing this with similar interest, but from the opposite side and with tags in mind instead of sections/categories (just as the linked discussion evolved).

Since the new tag limit was greatly increased, can we create a new tag for real porn just like there’s animation, hentai, cgi and such?

With the current way where real porn is “the standard” and other forms of media are tagged accordingly, we have tools to filter out those other forms of media, but there’s no real way to filter out videos with real actors. Filtering out jav, vr and pmv does some heavy lifting on that regard, but there are still a lot of strays that could be tagged.

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Not a bad idea. Surprised we haven’t already done this.

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I’d suggest something along the lines of “live-action” or just “real” if the former is too long for a tag that would be so common.

If a tag is agreed upon, I can start tagging stuff I come across.

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I just created a “real” tag

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Thanks!

Multiple errors occurred: 1) You must include at least 1 real tag. The tags in this group are: animation, animated, real. 2) You must include at least 1 vr tag. The tags in this group are: vr, jav-vr, non-vr.

what’s animated
ah its an alias
maybe delete it?
Also please try deleting 0-5 again maybe it’ll work this time

Please add Hentai and maybe Cartoon as options there
CGI may make sense but everyone will confuse it with Animated, maybe add it as well
And jav maybe?

Do we really need non-vr? Maybe we do but I doubt it’s needed unleast it’s vr+non-vr

I added these as requirements to new posts.
basically its to filter animated vs real, vr vs non-vr, and length tags.

What reason should we delete this tag?

can absolutely do so

The search mechanism in discourse doesn’t have a negate option so non-vr is necessary

0-5? because it’s an incorrect alias of other tag 2-5 iirc
animated is dunno

Dealt with

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The len-2-5 tag appears to be gone along with len-0-5 when tagging, can you please take a look at that?

It looks like it deleted both tags. That’s annoying.
I’ll have to make sure that I remove it as an alias before deleting it.
I re-created the tag.

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Erm so all the 0-2s got untagged?
Do you have backups?

We do but the amount of effort isn’t worth restoring those tags.
especially as that means losing all data from today.

Sorry for being nosy since I don’t know how Discourse works nor what kinds of access you have, but is it possible that the posts that had the old tag still have the ID of that old tag on them as a foreign key, but no matching row to attach to since it was deleted? If that’s the case, would it be possible to reindex the old tag to the ID of the new tag (or forcefully change the ID of the new tag to the ID of the old one)?

I’m just throwing my thoughts out here because I had a “similar but different” problem at work recently, but again, I don’t know how Discourse handles that.

some of the things im planning on fixing is how the forum is run.
right now it’s a docker container that has everything inside it including the database, which isn’t publically facing so exploring the database directly is a bit challenging at the moment without rebuilding the container, the problem which is docker is not good enough to reproducibly deploy discourse. we paid for this dearly a couple times at this point from doing updates.

When I migrate the forum the database will not be containerized and neither will discourse.

Backups as well right now are daily database dumps managed by discourse. I will change this to be WAL pushing to S3 storage so I have point in time restore capabilities.

Making changes to the forum right now comes with that risk.
It’s not the end of the world, we can do those tags again.

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Protip
I just learned negated searches are possible but only for tags.
#scripts -tag:len-0-2,len-5-10,len-10-25,len-25-60,len-60-plus,len-multiple
This searches for posts that lack len-2-5 tag (and the other non-len tags)

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Sorry, I’ll annoy you with one last thing. When I went to tag a post back with len-2-5, this happened:

You must include at least 1 real tag. The tags in this group are: hentai, cartoon, animation, animated, real.

It’s not a question about the error, but about the group of tags. It’s VERY rare, but there are posts like these where there’s no video nor audio, so it wouldn’t be any of those required tags:

https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/2-hour-experience-300-slow-unique-pattern-edge-script-new-3-hour-ultraslow-script/192924

Maybe it would make sense to make the required tags animation, real, audio and “script-only” (or something along those lines). Those 4 tags should cover everything, what do you think?

In the case of the other current required tags (hentai, cartoon, animated), I personally think they aren’t fit to be on the group because:

This is already way out of the original scope of the thread, so I understand if you want to stop here.

Thats fair.
Ill set ot to be just animation, real, audio, and script only

So if you have the DB backup you may merge tags after you get DB built so you have outside access to it?
Timing is less important then ability to restore

Please make a backup of that backup

There’s no “audio” tag, you might want to change that to “audio-only” in the “real” group.