I was just speaking to my motivations for going looking when I did.
It’s actually under “Notifications”. If you click on “Categories” or “Tags”, the page that appears has a “Muted” section (with the same search options as when you’re making a post).
Muted categories can still be viewed, but you have to manually expand your “Muted Categories” on the front page and then navigate into them, while muted tags as far as I can tell are just gone, and if there’s a way to see what’s muted without unmuting the tag it’s not obvious to me.
Currently, a “loli” tag doesn’t exist. But me or someone else can create one. Once created, any user can blacklist the content by doing what @remc_ren mentioned. However, we’d have to go back and tag such content for it to work properly. I don’t think there’s much at the moment, so it shouldn’t be hard.
I’d like to suggest a new rule where if a topic contains contentious content (such as loli, gore, scat, etc.). It must contain its respective tag, so users who don’t wish to see it can blacklist/mute them.
Should this apply to both scripts and requests involving such content? I think that would make sense, but I don’t normally look at requests very often anyway, so I’m not sure what the usual practice on tagging for them is.
Why ban any forms of drawn porn? I saw a post the other day featuring zombies fucking, and that was the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I wouldn’t jerk off to it, but I’m not going to prevent someone else from doing so. They don’t use actual corpses or human bodies - it’s all in their minds. If it were real child porn, that’s a different story because you’re harming a child. Drawn porn is a zero victim fetish.
I tend to feel pretty similarly, but not wanting to be exposed to particular types of content isn’t an unreasonable request, particularly if it actually is illegal in your personal jurisdiction. Even if that weren’t the case though, the site is better if people can find the things they want and avoid what they don’t, which is why I wish tagging was better overall. If it’s not going to be mandatory across the board, it’d at least help having a better way for the community to fill in the gaps.
(Though at least this site does let you block tags, which I consider a near must-have. There’s a certain commercial porn site I hate trying to browse, because it’s almost impossible to search for things I like without also running into a bunch of scat, and their search function doesn’t support excluding categories.)
Let’s just start with the obvious, which is that animated porn cannot, by definition, be child pornography. There are some blinkered governments in the world which pass incorrect (and very counter-productive) laws saying otherwise, but catering to every backwards law in the world would render this site entirely empty, quite literally.
I see a fair bit of content posted that I have no interest in. I’d hate for my tastes to dictate how the site operates, and don’t think anyone else should feel so entitled, either. If your country has a bad law, then just don’t download the content in question. It’s presumptuous to demand that special rules are put into place just for you or anyone else.
It would be nice if content tagging were always used correctly, so that one could both exclude what’s desired and include what is, but going down the road of making that mandatory is guaranteed to cut down on posts overall, because many people would just say “screw it” rather than deal with stringent tagging rules.
The upshot is, everyone here should be responsible for what they choose to download or ignore. Barring actual child pornography (which has roughly zero chance of being posted on a site like this), nothing should be forbidden or given special treatment, in my not so humble opinion.
It is child pornogaphy though. It’s made for and by peadophiles. They want to watch prepubescent children having sex but that’s illegal so they draw it instead.
No children are harmed in the production of animated child pornography. This fact may make it alright in some people’s eyes and honestly I don’t know whether watching it helps paedophiles manage their urges (and avoid harming actual children) or if it feeds their fantasy and makes the urges stronger.
I don’t think not wanting to mingle with paedophiles is a super entitled stance to take. I think it’s a tragedy that society has got to the point where being attracted to prepubescent children is being lumped in with sexual tastes.
I don’t think it’s a bad law. I don’t wish any harm upon non offending paedophiles but that doesn’t mean I think it’s ok for them to brazenly indulge in their illness in public spaces. We shouldn’t be normalising their proclivities and making them think it’s normal or acceptable, they need to seek treatment or bury that aspect of themselves so deeply that it never sees the light of day.
TBH… I haven’t even come across any disturbing Loli content here…
I don’t usually watch HMVs though and I know there’s a lot of them here, so I’m not in a position to be a judge of this.
Just wanted to put it out there that - if you wouldn’t have brought the topic up - I probably never would have guessed this forum has lots of Loli/Shotacon.
Could you maybe not with the armchair psychology and insulting people who don’t agree with you?
Also, while I don’t think you can prove your assertion here (or that it’s correct), I have seen research concluding that having safe outlets do help people not act on desires that would harm others (not limited to the subject of this particular conversation), and that suppression (aka “bury it deeply”) makes things worse. Oh, and ostracization? Also makes things worse, because the last thing you want is for someone who has enough of a functioning moral compass to not harm living people is to be left with only the company of people who will tell them that no, no, the thing that harms living people is just fiiiine.
So even if you’re right about your initial precept, you’re still own-goaling left and right here.
Could you maybe not with the armchair psychology either?
I’m not sure it does. I’ve seen maybe a half dozen videos listed that fit the bill (all marked in the description), and a couple hmvs that had content that fit the bill. (Though I skip most hmvs, so that number is probably low.) Maybe a couple more on realsync that don’t seem to have posts here? Not a majority of even just the hentai content, never mind the forum as a whole.
Of course, that’s if teenagers are okay. If they’re not, then it’s off to the races, because you might be able to avoid hentai with high schoolers in it? But it really ain’t easy.
I’ve also seen some content I was thinking about scripting because of technical interest*, but found myself going “Okay, going by this character’s facial structure, she’s maybe a petite 20-something? But other people have tagged it as loli. But the official source does not. What believe?” And finally said hell with it and moved on to other projects. Who decides where the line is drawn?
*As in, it involves a game engine that doesn’t have support for this kind of scripting, but I think I could probably add it without much trouble, so it’d be a cool project from that point of view.
I don’t really agree, but you know what, this isn’t really worth arguing about. However, there’s another question that I don’t believe has been brought up.
What is the legal status of animated material in the location where this forum is hosted? I think I’ve read that it’s US-based, but if that were in, say, California, then the rest of it doesn’t matter, it needs to go byebye for the safety of the forum as a whole.
And however this plays out, I think this is another reason why we could really use a better system for people other than the OP to add tags to posts. Multiple sites I’ve been on (for both sfw and nsfw material) have user-voted tags, it seems to work. (And one has the policy of “You don’t want to tag your posts? Don’t let the door hit you on the way out,” which is a position I can get behind.)
As long as any contentious content is tagged, it should stay. If you don’t like it, use the tag filters as they are there to filter out content you don’t like. Removing an entire category of porn because a few people are mad that people are liking it (and charting it) is a very bad decision.
Drawn content is NOT REAL and therefore should be treated differently from IRL CP, which should obviously banned because it’s harming real children and is illegal, while lolicon is just a grey area and should stay because no one is getting harmed.
If loli is banned, you just alienated ~25% of all of the drawn content that is there.
I think that we as a community should be able to have conversations to forward the wants and needs of the community without name calling and the like. I am closing this topic for now and will tidy up a bit so we can continue discussion. Ultimately it is clear that there is a NEED for action and Admin and mods will go into discussion where we will try to determine a best action for the community.
