Well this sucks. I’m already a premium subscriber but rubbish like this has me reconsidering that.
I am like many others that dont have fast internet to stream and consume all my content locally. I dont make a lot of money so buy only few vids/scripts when i can and use many that are free since i cannot afford much. I have hard enough time with all my bills, having another monthly/annual bill is simply out of the question. SLR has been pioneers in the space and what ive been using but this is a MAJOR step back imo for many reasons people have listed here. If this required new premium subscription stays, i will sadly need to take step back from SLR as well and stop using it
Haha not sure if we are on the same wave. I guess I shoulda stuck with a better analogy.
I know I can’t talk you out of your thinking similar to try and change a car dealers selling aggression as to why I need fully loaded than the basic.
My comments are just my opinion and hopefully SLR takes it in to consideration and reconstruct a model around it as you can see some members are now posting they have the same issue or are reconsidering their membership.
Just like I replied to Inventiv I don’t need the whole tuxedo i just need the bow tie. If you don’t wanna sell it to me then I’ll find someone that will. Just in case my typing may come off different. I’m not trying to be a jerk just speaking thoughts here.
How about another aspect of this?
I’ve bought a couple of videos from SLR, and I treat the opening screen as a nice big advertisement for things you’re selling. I look through them from time to time to see if there’s anything else I want to grab, especially the interactive stuff.
That said, I mostly use it to play videos from other sources, especially ones that use Funscript (but also non-porn videos). It’s easy and convenient, and works. I’ve been recommending the SLR player to everyone - and I mean everyone - who uses Funscript-based toys like the Handy. I’ve even thought about the idea of a one-time purchase, to pay for the convenience. I wouldn’t mind that, if it was a reasonable price.
That’s not going to happen any more. I won’t tell people about it (except to emphasize how they have to pay a monthly fee to have access to the player), I won’t be using it, and I won’t be buying any more SLR videos, ever. I’ll use other players, even if they’re somewhat less convenient, and I’ll be supporting apps like HereSphere.
So have fun with that subscription model - I don’t think it’s going to work out as well as you think.
Just wanted to offer my comments as someone who doesn’t have a horse in the race:
Removing features that were previously available for free and making it premium is not a good business decision. Removing those features with only alluding to implementing better features in the future is even worse. Those features you plan on implementing in the future should be Premium. If those features alone are not enough to incentivize Premium access they are most likely not worth investing in.
You’re going to be outcompeted in the market for a player anyway. Someone will make a player that does the same thing without SLR advertisements and Marketing. You’re going to lose sales based on this. Testimony above predicts that as well.
I don’t own a Quest or a VR set up, but I was planning on it in the Future. By my prediction an alternative will exist by then, if it doesn’t already.
That’s not how it works. Player is a huge investment.
Skybox has blown a shitload of investment money before it got out of business downgrading from 20 to 1 staff some years ago.
HereSphere is indy. He does great introducing features, but it’s not sustainable, as the more features you introduce the more it takes to maintain them and less time for bringing new ones.
The whole tech is going to the next level. And it’s really costly to get stuff you need to develop. Really sorry to see how you guys prefer to fool yourself into the opposite.
You don’t get to choose your market/consumers or what products they’ll be interested in.
If people are just interested in a simple VR media player then you’ll be outcompeted. Your APP will not be purchased or subscribed to as it does not facilitate this without charge. This is a simple enough feature that can be countlessly replicated. (Listen to the testimony above)
If people are interested in the features you’re alluding to, which I’d like to hear more about, then they’ll pay for them.
My point being that either way people will pay for those features, if they want them, as you’re the only one offering them and the only ones with the foundation to upkeep them.
So why not then just put the pay point between the player and the features? That way you retain free marketing for purchases which would theoretically drive sales up.
Of course. Because @GoonerScriptz says this.
We don’t have time and resources to sell anything than SLR Premium. And yes, we have to pay every month many people for their work. If you don’t have people working on the project it’s about time it’s getting dead.
Geez…edit much…
I just have to say, your attitude has cemented the fact that I will never, ever be subscribing to SLR in the future and I’m damn glad I cancelled my sub a while ago.
The SLR video player app was a convenience for me. I was able to get all sorts of scripts from this site, buy scripts I might like a la carte, and just play them with the script. 2D/3D, it didn’t matter. It was convenient. I even would have been willing to pay a one one-time fee to have access to said app. Because it was convenient.
But I’m not paying a sub to have access to a piece of software that has nothing else I’m interested in. I just want to watch the videos and scripts that I get from here and possibly from SLR. But instead I just figured out how to use scriptplayer and DeoVR and just tell Steam never to update it. Problem solved. And I will never interact with SLR again.
I assume VR porn is still somewhat of a niche market, and all you’ve done is alienate early adopters.
Glad to see you have a plan
Visionary and running the operation
Based off of what @doublevr said in the other thread about this it looks like they are selling just the bow tie. Buying one script from slr gets you unlimited funscript functionality in their player and still allows you to play non slr scripts too.
Can you just confirm that in this thread too @doublevr
Correct
It’s funny how people that never purchased anything are complaining most. Just wanted to point out how low life people can be
Then you need to hurry up and fix the prompt in the player that says you need to have Premium to use the player or play scripts, because THAT is the issue.
You complain that you can’t sell/support the player - but you could easily sell a one-time “access the player” item the same way you sell videos. “Buy one of these videos for $30 and get full access to the player.” And you get a nice initial income, along with that wonderful free advertising you get when someone opens it to play, well, anything.
You definitely haven’t read previous posts. We are not in selling player business. All the apps are free for slr premium users.
Just get premium and enjoy things
Yes and I want be clear just incase I wasn’t. I am not making a value judgement. I am only stating what the market will do in response.
I personally think it is better business practice to keep free users on a low-end version of the app with less features and be exposed to script purchases than not…for your and SLRs gain. SLR should be profitable.
It is very different to talk about what is possible and what ought to be. With the amount of Community Driven Content within this market you have to plan around that. You can also use that to your advantage by running polls and cross referencing them with sales analytics.
How many free-users make purchases on the App versus Premium etc.
So, I’m very confused. You keep saying people need to “get premium and enjoy things,” and the player clearly said you need SLR Premium, a subscription, to access interactive control.
Yet, you also said its “correct” that once you buy one script, you’re considered “premium” and don’t need to stay subscribed to be able to use community scripts?
I think a lot of the “low life” people you’re talking about (again, a horrible way to communicate for a business, just pointing that out) are very confused. At least I am. I admit, I was not logged in, as I have recently reformatted my PC and just wanted a quick wank so I couldn’t be bothered. But all signs point to needing to have an active subscription to SLR to be able to use funscript functionality.
So, are you saying that since I have had a sub to SLR and have my scripts that I was able to get for free with that sub at the time, I can just login and use those scripts as well as any community-made scripts without reactivating a subscription?
Definitely not working i have a friend with an old premium account where he purchased about 5 interactive videos and scripts. Loading in the latest slr app version. Everything logs in correctly and toy is recognized in the video via bt blue icon but not working. I believe there is a post in this thread they are working on that issue but time will tell i guess?
Then again if it’s ture what you say… technically all you need is to sub one time snd you get unlimited access? Then why not do what i said and put a one time price on the app? Is that not the same thing?
As for @doublevr comments i think he is missing the point that the BIZ model fks the user experience which in modern times UX is the way to go. You are monetizing the wrong area. Its like fb having a fee to sign up when it first started. Instead they focused giving the user more and monetizing areas around the user without disruption. As you can see how many people are stating the obvious but if you as the visionary refuse to see it then others will capture it. The “out compete” comments from other posters is true in a sense and what i think they mean is someone will build an app, give more to the user than slr does but monetize the data, advertising or other well known methods. They will find a way to support claims that an app like slr takes so much work to maintain… which i think is false.
Funscripts are not evolving dramatically in ways that require ai tech to solve … so ither you got weak devs or you are over selling it.
Doublevr is also taking the position. That every one is acting like cheap broke ppl that puts alot of bad taste in the mouth. I speak from experience as i grew a 1k per month garage business model selling products into a multi million buisiness not about braging just want you to know the angle i am coming from. Ither way good luck to you.
My complaint was about having to get premium in order to access the app.
You said “correct” to the question about “Buying one script from slr gets you unlimited funscript functionality in their player and still allows you to play non slr scripts too.”
Now you’re saying “the apps are free for premium users.” Which contradicts the “buying one script” claim.
And when you look at the app, it says “premium only” too.
I think the problem is not with me failing to read previous posts, it’s that you haven’t even read your own.