I think these are good points though I think this is a bit stuck on the semantics of trial vs sample.
The complaints mods mostly hear about are what I would call a sample. The beginning section of a video that only has some action and the rest of the video is paid.
This imo is an incomplete script which we have a category for.
I believe the goal is to avoid filling free scripts with spam and low quality scripts. I think we cant really go on time restrictions as there are plenty of quality scripts that under 2 minutes.
We can go on a case by case basis and say a script must have a minimum of say X% of the video of action.
Video with inactive areas would need to have 2 versions of the script with and without filler.
As for a trial/multi-axis scripts scriptors can advertise paid multi-axis in their posts as long as the free script in that post is a full script.
We might start enforcing heatmap previews as a rule btw.
Are the complaints about multi part JAV videos or are the complaints about partial scripts for a single video file?
Please don’t start with messy coverage metrics. I think it’s quite clear as it is now.
Paid scripts in the paid section.
Fully scripted videos where the script is free (even if the video isn’t) shall be in the free section. It doesn’t matter if the scripts contain lots of holes as long as it is because how the videos were filmed, e.g. dialogue / kissing / guy licking gal, bondage etc.
Scripts that doesn’t include actions for the whole video shall be in the partial scripts section (see exception below).
Free partial script samples can be provided in the same topic as the full paid script and shall be in the paid script section.
These multi part JAV videos are a special case. They should be divided between free and paid. The first video, if fully scripted and released for free, can stay in the free section while the paid parts stays in the paid section. You should learn quickly that this is how videos are released by most JAV studios (from what I’ve seen at least).
(This is basically the same case as your example with fap hero where the free first scene is free and the full video is paid.)
Free single axis and paid multi axis need to be divided. No false advertising using multi axis tag in the free section when the multi axis part is paid only.
I don’t feel I see an excessive deviation from these rules. I think most people that “break” the rules are new people that haven’t actually read *(understood) them. We have a lot of users that English is not their primary language.
Guys (moderators and owners), I don’t understand something…
We can’t post scripts in the free section if yours users need to register to download them. All visitors should be able to download easily…
I see - good.
Visitors can’t download free scripts from the forum without registration.
If you are in favor of the freedom to distribute scripts, need to remove the second point. Show an example to all other communities and to us, scriptors. But then there will be a question of copyright and many other things. There was once a precedent when a scriptwriter decided to delete all his scripts and got blocked, by publishing free scripts through third-party resources, the creator leaves himself the opportunity to delete them whenever he wants, because the copyright is his. By accepting your agreement, many will disagree with this - and yes I will think twice now.
P.S. A personal grudge of mine on this forum came to mind. When I was forbidden to publish my multi-axis scripts for a fee in one thread with a free mono script - it influenced my decision and now I don’t publish multi-axis scripts for free.
Someone did not like it - that he went to the link and there did not get what he wanted, how many were such complaints I do not know. Let the one who didn’t like it - do better, I will even actively help him with my developments
Although it is thanks to my Patreon subscribers that I do what I do (although I’m having a bit of a burnout right now). If I write the whole list of things I bought with the money that helped me and help me now to write scripts and create my robot - I spent more than I earned. Although perhaps in the opinion of many - I don’t do enough for multi-axis.
P.P.S. Uh… My point is this - the forum from a platform for scripters (remember the 1% rule?) is beginning to turn into a platform for visitors. And the rule explicitly stating that there should be no third-party links in free topics is another confirmation of this thought (It will be my cat, and I’ll feed it myself). We are waiting for ads to appear soon
At the very top, it says “EroScripts is a community for scripts that sync interactive sex toys with porn.”
Thus, this is an adult site. It is common practice to have some barrier in place, usually in the form of a landing page, an age verification pop-up, or a log in requirement in order to make NSFW content visible. There’s no problem here, I feel like you’re just being nitpicky because the new rule change affected you negatively…
By the way, the community has asked about ads in the past, and the answer has always been NO, and while I can only really speak for myself here, it seems to me that a solid percentage of users would not mind non-intrusive ads if it became necessary for the site to stay afloat.
I disagree - the new rule has not affected me in any way. I used to post initially single-axis scripts in the paid thread, and after some time I moved this post to the free thread, and I still do (for example, today). I can still leave a link to my Patreon in the free post.
The question is that the owners have the right/should require registration on the forum, and scriptwriters do not have the right to register access to their scripts through third-party resources - I would like to see who downloaded and how many times my free script. Patreon provides similar information on free subscribers.
If the desire arises, the scriptwriter has the right and should be able to close his scripts at once - but the owners/moderators do not think so and limit the number of edits per day.
That’s what I mean - this platform is no longer for scriptwriters, it’s for visitors.
P.S. On the subject of advertising, I’ve trolled the owners a couple times myself
This question lies on the surface, such a popular resource someday will definitely monetize, there are few ways - paid access or advertising. If the forum is “forcibly” turned in the direction of users, the consequence is self-evident.
P.P.S. That’s an awesome idea I mentioned above to collect stats.
Moved the above post to the paid category, but access is available through Patreon for free users.
I respect that you are making scripts and trying to turn a profit. But to be very clear. The free scripts section is for gratis. Whether you are a company or an individual asking for private information in return is not gratis, and in many jurisdictions, is illegal thanks to privacy laws in many countries.
At any point in time you believe that the forum no longer brings you or your business value, you are free to advertise anywhere you want.
As a mod myself, I make $0 doing what I do now. I do it because I enjoy it and want to see the community thrive.
In the meantime, if we put the fun script free on the topic we can see how many time it is downloaded ., the number of likes should be and indicator of who (in a smaller proportion compared to the download, yes)
I too am in favor of community development and always have been and always will be…
I understand the complexity and responsibility of your work. Also for you there is some difficult moment, which in my mind and I have arisen more than once and not twice - it is that thanks to your efforts (in fact, a free platform for selling and advertising scripts) others get profit from their work but not you. And here is the answer:
The normal practice of sharing earnings for me (as an example with you and @Yoooi) is about 10% and when your patreon launched I immediately put in $10 which was about 10% of mine, restarting my Patreon I couldn’t subscribe either as the manual payment entry option was not available and it was only $5.
The answer is self evident - don’t look at the visitors, let’s make an advertising option for scripters for $20 a month? With all the goodies that came before:
single-axis free + multi-axis through Patreon;
part of the script free + paid full;
free script through registration on a third-party resource, etc.
It has been discussed many times that likes and comments do not reflect the whole picture of script usage and quality. I often experiment and make scripts not classic (1 guy + 1 girl = classic) and it would be useful and interesting for me to know how many people actually downloaded my scripts with trance/pegging/interracial etc. Also in multi-axis scripts I try to improve and add some other methods - rolling forward/backward or harder wanking or twisted blowjobs. I would find this information helpful for future scripts.
Let’s be honest, shall we?
Just say you want to make money too, but don’t want to sell out to advertisers or big studios and turn your face to the people who are the base of this forum and give them the option to pay and do what they want.
If you remove |attachment from the link to the uploaded funscript before posting you will get a download counter for your funscript links just as normal links.
I wouldnt lie, it would be nice to make money being a mod, I enjoy it and if I could do it full time I would.
The 2 new tiers were made a bit ago as a result of my post about the plans to upgrade/migrate the forum. Some users expressed they wish they could donate more.
I made the tiers but as of this moment cant think of a good reason to justify them. Theres no incentive right now, and I would like to avoid enshitification. I wouldlike to add features instead of removing them. I have one in mind but that needs to wait until after the migration.
There are no plans at the moment to put existing abilities behind a paywall.
Wait - you have a product that I’m willing to buy as a script writer. You have a platform for advertising, for example SLR scriptwriters use it very actively.
If you don’t want to monetize access to the site and it’s very right and I support you with all my hands - it won’t be a big problem to create an additional level for script writers for money, and I’ll go back to my old process - to publish all my scripts for free after a while, because why do I write them then, if not for people.
Level 1 for $10 publishing in the paid scripts category.
Level 2 for $20 publishing promotional posts (like my multi-axis or with part) in the free scripts category.
3rd level $100 to do some other crap
Of course when I start making enough through patreon to pay $30/$40/$50/$100 - I’ll do it. What’s better than buying a buddy a beer or dinner?
P.S. We are all members of a very interesting community who are pushing the process of cybersex to a new level. And I think it’s only fair that those who make money from it sponsor others - moderators/administrators/altruists.
The reason for why I don’t want this is that it messes up search/filters. If you search/filter the free section it’s for the very reason that you don’t want paid content.
For this to be acceptable it must be possible to see that a post is promotional without visiting the topic, like sponsored links in a Google search.
