This is the kind of discourse we are looking for here. Thank you @Slibowitz and I agree.
Thank you to everyone else who helped us reach this point.
I will close the thread once things get moving in the other post.
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What post is that ? I can’t seem to find it.
just came home to this big thread 
Thanks everyone for keeping it civil, and thanks @basicgirl for speaking up and taking responsibility
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Wow, just came across this fire.
As a fellow creator, I totally understand how you guys feel. We spend a lot of time and energy doing what we do and to have somebody come along and profit off of it well, sucks. But something to keep in mind fellas and I’m sure some of you are aware of this. We are the mom and pop store, and it is only a matter of time until the corporations come and shut us down. One day technology and the porn industry will catch up. And scripted videos will be the new section included in your Reality Kings membership. So, what do we do? Do we just keep on going knowing that our stuff will be pirated? Do we try to create our own pay site? Do we just give up and stop posting our scripts? I guess that’s a decision each of us will have to make on our own, but may I present you another option? Something that I thought of a some time ago. What if as scripters, we offer our services to the independent performers out there? The target sites would be manyvids and onlyfans. We offer our scripting services which they can then sell alongside their content. I’m not sure how the payments will work out. We take a lump sum or a percentage of each sale. Obviously this would need to be worked out with the sites executives, but in the end it’s a way to expand the profit margin.
I would really love to hear you guys input on this. I truly believe this is something that could work. You have all these people on the adult sites using their talents, then you have all of us with our talents. Why the hell shouldn’t we team up?
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Actually, I didn’t want to write anything more about it, but I can’t believe the offered solutions here. I want to clearify things that are nogo’s for maybe future projects.
What went wrong on this project:
- Always inform the stakeholders before you go online wth hugh impact stuff or with other peoples creation. The stakeholders here at bukkake.moe are the script creators.
- If you let people post content that are not created by themselves is a big mistake and always went to a negative site. You always need a moderation gate for postings on such site else you can’t control what people sharing.
- Don’t overlook the side effects. For example on this mess here. Your site provides copyright abuse content because of the lack of moderation and open access. If you credit the script creator and link to eroscripts, those who are specifically looking for copyright violations are lured directly to eroscripts. Video publisher are not amused about that. Guess what happens? Big Impact to the shared material here.
- A lot of creators here are not happy with the lack of feedback and recognition. Do you really think that it will be better if you don’t have to visit eroscripts for the scripts anymore
- If you want to offer toy sync on your website, don’t provide the data over a file system, save the data into a database and make it unavailable for direct download.
- Sometimes don’t give a f*** about people want. Sure it is super easy if you don’t need to download the script and video and manage the file system, but so what. It takes around 1 min actual work to do that. You sit down and jerk 45 minutes and don’t have the time to prepare it all? Common… Those user who complain about it should get SLR and pay for it. Some people here should be happy enough that a few guys create such an amount of scripts for free or ridiculously little money.
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As a new user to this site, I’d be totally OK with a small one-time-fee to join. This place is the best resource for these scripts.
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Glad to see community addressing copyright 
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Whoah Just OMG! What a forum thread!
I am new here as well. Honing my scripting lately (insecure that my scripts won’t live up to others tbh)
However, I would not mind a small fee (one time or even yearly; $1/year is worth it to me) as well if it can help combat theft of other peoples work.
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I feel that you cant argue copyright infringement while links on here exists via mega, torrent, etc.
I don’t want to point fingers and say so and so. but you yourself have linked to pirated content and on the content of permission I don’t know if you have permission to make paid scripts of other peoples videos.
That’s all I’m saying for now, I will be posting a project post once I’ve added more features to help creators get credit.
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Nice whataboutism. Sharing copyrighted videos on here is a different issue that doesn’t subtract from the issue of taking people’s scripts, that take hours to make, without their permission.
Its a good way to discourage script creators from giving their work away for free or put creators off all together, remember that scripting is a niche and we need to support script creators in every way that we can.
Perhaps Eroscripts needs a general usage license that creators can opt in to. Could even have a radio button group selection for license type when posting a script.
Not sure what the license types would be maybe at the very least a Creative Commons — Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International — CC BY-NC-ND 4.0
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Torrents have never been allowed on this site and I have never seen torrents ever be posted here.
Megas have been a problem but MANY free script creators like @torgo313 or @Zalunda explicitly do not allow free video links or Megas. Take a look at recent posts, the mods/user base actually take down/flag people linking 3rd party sites. A huge difference on Euroscript it is actively being moderated by the team and the user base.
@mADsCRIPTS has video links to studio link or pornhub which the creator (aka pornstar) profits from pornhub advertising + a bump to the PH algorithm. This is NOT piracy but in fact redirecting traffic to the actress. Also, you have no idea the amount of time he puts into posting studio links on other people posts as well.
You DO NOT need permission to script a video. This is a form of free speech and expression of the scripter. The script itself does nothing to take away sales or profit from the original creator of the video or use anything from the video. It actually does the opposite and increases profit for the video creator.
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It would be like asking permission to paint a picture based on music someone played. We aren’t making a video to replace their work, or a product that someone could confuse with their video. A text file =/= a porn video.
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But you’re profiting off of someone else’s work without permission correct?
Really, I’m done messaging about this now. I’ll make a post about the site and people can decide if it stays up or gets shut down/
I am sorry but a scripter has no obligation to inform the video creator bc that script is user generated and form of free speech/expression of that individual.
It is a different medium and craft. No 2 scripts can be 100% “to the T” be alike from start to finish. That’s because it is art.
In the modern world there are often underlying tools used to create code (videos, audio, and programs are all 0s and 1s). If you are programing you do so in an IDE made by another company that sits on top of an operating system made by yet another company. The company that made the IDE does not own the code created within it nor does the Operating system own the rights to the software that requires it to run. Point being that digital rights are pretty complicated and they have to be.
Regardless of your opinion on scripts, it’s inaccurate to say that scripters are only profiting off the works of others. A ton of work goes into making a script by hand.
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Hey, I’m a new scripter and just wanted to give my opinion on the topic, too.
I script for myself and everything I share is just so others can also enjoy what I’ve made. I literally don’t care if my scripts are reposted because online porn as a whole is built off of stolen goods.
I get that some of you might feel a sense of ownership about your brand or your scripts, but you don’t have any moral ground to stand on if you’ve ever scripted to a video sourced from SpankBang or MEGA. Accept that free is free and paid is paid, both in terms of money and credit.
@basicgirl
I’ve used bukkake.moe before and I think it’s useful for when you aren’t on your main PC but you do have your Handy or whatever with you. Glad you added an offset option!
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@Slibowitz Thanks for the great constructive feedback! I’m not an author, but was really loving the bukkake.moe site before everything was deleted there. I’m glad you are all talking it through. I think it has the possibility to grow script use to a higher level. It was so easy to use and try lots of videos/scripts. Usually there were a bunch of steps to try a script and I pass on trying lots of them on EuroScripts because of that. This will get more scripts used by more people. I’m on the sidelines, but really cheering for this to work. Very cool of all of you to talk it out and improve things.
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