Hi all! I have a kindof specific problem and am wondering if anyone else has interesting solutions or suggestions for me on this.
So, I recently got an SR6 from Crafty Handy and it has been pretty awesome for the most part (dealing with some inverted axes issues rn, but I hope I’ll be able to figure it out). However, I have an issue where my dick essentially gets pushed out or slips out of most sleeves I’ve tried when it starts to get soft. I like to have long sessions, and I can’t be hard continuously for hours at a time unfortunately (at least not without a prescription lol).
The solution I had for this on The Handy was the Tenga Spinner. These sleeves are able to hang on to my dick and have enough suction that the Handy and even the SR6 to an extent can continue to do its thing and my dick stays sucked in.
However, the tenga spinner is pretty small and I have recently bought the Tenka Ikketsu Onahole and I think it feels much better, but it behaves more like a fleshlight and I pop out pretty easily.
So I guess I’m wondering if others have this issue and what their solutions have been? I was looking at the Gachikori Meganekko Nurse Hard and thinking that this looks like it could behave similarly to the Tenga spinner in terms of material and suction, but also feel better/closer to the Tenka? I know that everyon’s situation and biology/preferences are different, but if anyone has recommendations for this particular need of mine, I’m all ears as I’d prefer not to just keep buying random sleeves that I feel like would not let go of a soft dick.
I found that the Handy Gen 2 sleeve to be great if I’m expecting an video or more likely a game to have some slow points. If I want a Onahole that can do similar even if I use my oil like INSOMNIA lube then it’s Virgin Matchless.
These do provide the suction you said about which is key but also what is just as key is having the SR6’s limits set correctly as I recently got back to using mine after a bit of an break and while the Gen 2 was fine, the Virgin Matchless I had a few slips when hard as I had I had roll and pitch set to random generation and it just went wrong at the top of the script. (even after disabling surge and sway from copying)
It’s difficult to get onaholes which aren’t lifelike to a degree and so have an entrance that is more like a cock ring, causing said suction. (while also not being tight enough inside to push you out)
I also constantly forget that the entrance area can result in you sticking out of a onahole since some are made to have the entrance indented due to the side thighs/ass cheeks which I know that I can fill the tunnel length if they weren’t in the way. Flat entrances just seem rare.
Hmm, so I’m looking at the virgin matchless. Alot of reviews claim that it doesn’t hold up well to use. Have you found it ripping much? Looking at it it doesn’t seem like it would be able to hold onto the penis while soft, but you say that it works for that?
Wondering if a sleeve like this would work better since the hole is less indented:
Or maybe this since this seems to have a wider “cock ring” opening as you say, similar to the Tenga Spinner:
So far with my usage of virgin matchless I’ve found it to be durable although it does have rips at the first 3 ‘gates’ or entrances. (I’ve had it since roughly October 2023 and used it a more than weekly overall I think)
However I believe the reason for them is when I really went ham and was smashing it down on me too hard and too much in one session making the base of my penis go in to stretch and rip it. As when I clean it I stretch it slightly to make sure water gets in and out along with spurting the water/air out like it was a ketchup bottle so I see the entrance every time I’ve used it so I know it was that session where I used it by hand rather than machine.
With holding my penis while soft it is the best out of the bunch I’ve got excluding the Truegrip Gen 2 although of course if your not in it when getting soft you’ll find it hard to get in it or stay in it. (say max height on your Handy/OSR device) I find that an easy safe limit to have for my SR6 if I think I’m soft is to just halve or take a quarter off the max height and the movement will bring me back to hard again.
I will say though that when I looked at the reviews I noticed those whom stated they had a big girth ended up saying about it ripping and I can easily see why due to how it is. So if your girth is above average (like La Bocca Della Verita is instantly ripping as even average girths will rip it) you should only get it if you take care with it and with the possible expectation of it ripping. Also the belly part of it feels like it’s thin although I’ve never gone through it but have seen an slight bulge or felt my fingers to a degree through it. Honestly the price of it being roughly half the price if not more than most of my onaholes it’s very worthwhile to even try since it’s less money wasted if I ripped it in the first few goes as some reviews said.
With regards to the two you’ve found I haven’t got/used them before I firstly most likely wouldn’t get personally due to their stimulation looking to be extremely high. However I would go with the Lilith if I had to since it’s entrance and tunnel is straight rather than the V shape that the Mochihada has. (which makes me thing it’s lips are the tightest point about it till near the end so lube leaking is likely at least) Although the Lilith has that slightly over protruding entrance that if reduced/removed would give you better chance at using the whole tunnel. (roughly the black box I put around the photo)
It definitely has at the least though an similar ‘gate’/multiple cock rings in the tunnel to make it be an vacuum onahole.
PS my onahole/sleeve/fleshlight collection list roughly, I haven't use some in years
Onaholes
Meiki no Syoumei 05 Zhang Xiao Yu (my very first and I got it in it’s early years as I’ve seen that some people are saying newly made ones aren’t the same. I haven’t used it in nearly a decade as I went a bit without being able to and it’s got some bad rips from just over time usage. Need to see if I can use it with my SR6 before I get a new one.) La Bocca Della Verita (great although I am slowly ripping it as it’s so small and fragile in a way) Tenka Ikketsu Virgin Matchless (onahole daily driver) Sujiman Kupa Big Rina Uterus Adulter Gokusai Uterus X Taimanin Sakura Seigi no Bishojo (all of the Taimanins have horrible entrances and squeeze you out of them) Taimanin Igawa Asagi Miseijuku no Bijo Hole Taimanin Shiranui Mizuki Youen Miboujin Taimanin Yukikaze Sora no Jutsu Hall - Rinko Akiyama THRUST Pro Ultra Holly Realistic Vagina 480g (the tightest onahole ever as it’s an fight to get into it but painfully short and easy to slip out of…plus open ended) TENGA Cool Standard Edition Deep Throat Onacup
Sleeves
TrueGrip™ Gen 2 Sleeve (sleeve daily driver and I’ve used the most on this whole list I believe) Lips Sleeve (rarely use this since first few tries) Lotus Sleeve (it’s got no stimulation and is just an slight squeeze) TrueGrip™ Sleeve
Fleshlights
Fleshlight Pink Lady Stamina Training (I think the Mochihada will be most like this and I found it over stimulating) Fleshlight Riley Reid Utopia Texture Fleshlight Butt Riley Reid Euphoria Texture Fleshlight Stoya Destroya Texture Fleshlight Tori Black Torrid Texture Fleshlight Mia Malkova Lvl Up Texture Teagan Presley Bulletproof Textured Fleshlight Girls Butt
Thanks for the detailed response! I will order the virgin matchless and a couple others to test and see what works for me. I appreciate your recommendations and collection list!
Hope it isn’t too late for you to react to these additions to make decisions on them but I wouldn’t be surprised if you need more time for these as I can’t give my personal experience on them and for two of them the review count is very low although the ratings on all of them are high. I really need to check in with the site more often as the emails letting me know about the sales don’t appear to come…or I forgetfully delete them.
So, I ended up purchasing the virgin matchless, EX mochihada, Absorption Lilith and gachikori Meganekko nurse hard.
Been testing for a few weeks, but unfortunately none of them are an adequate replacement for the Tenga spinner in terms of being able to hold on while soft. The virgin matchless slightly outperformed the other 3, but I still had to heavily micromanage it or else I would just slip out. I am starting to think that the key here is not the level of suction per se, but how open the hole is. I haven’t been able to find many alternatives to the tenga spinner or the handy sleeve out there. Which sucks because I find the variety of onaholes more exciting…
Try the Heavens Fall Nine Ex-Hard. Has good suction that keeps me in when soft. Beware, it’s a different feeling but in a good way. It’s been one of my daily drivers.
also the supreme romanticism bj ona @ratattack15 suggested does not keep you in when soft BUT it is an amazing bj onahole when used with osr2+ or SR6. The tongue on it moves on its own during the up/down strokes when strapped properly.
That’s an ouchy…are you making sure to reduce stroke length as if you’re running normally at max length and are a grower then I wouldn’t be too surprised about it all. If I get fully soft and shrunk I normally go from max length to 40%. Maybe what you’ll have to do have a two layer setup where you have something like an overly long condom or vacuum tubing from an penis pump on you and have that go into the onaholes and thus be an guiding thing? As maybe when your getting soft that first layer will move around a bit in an sucking fashion of sorts?
In other news as 4th of July resulted in ToyDemon having an massive sale I did get a bunch of new onaholes (mostly what was on my wishlist) myself and while I’ve only gotten halfway through them, I can say for sure that the virgin matchless kurogane is much worse than the normal one due to it’s tightness/hardness.
Since if I go in while semi soft/softening it is a right struggle to not have it try and push me out so I found myself having to abandon using it in my SR6. (not quite THRUST Pro Ultra Holly levels but getting close) Even when I reduce the stroke length to minimal movement it was nope…so I think I have to break it in slightly. Also side note as due to it being clear view (which is actually foggy view) I can see that the tunnel is worryingly off center and is close to the belly side of the onahole.
But yeah it’s tightness/hardness makes it very hard to use not by hand in my view, cleaning is much more of an problem even compared to the normal matchless that I’m finally getting an cleaning tool to poke into it to help make sure it gets washed out properly.
I have had one surprised from the Slow Revolution I mentioned prior as that has been an surprise hit sensation wise though as I hot swapped to it from the matchless kurogane (as it made me fully soft shrunk), I am going to test it a bit more. Runner up is Puni Virgin Excite Next Gen Artificial Skin though it’s mainly due to it’s texture being more teasing like and the material used is different compared to all others in feel and that it’s very water proof like, wouldn’t say it’s better than matchless though at holding an softie.
@myhandy As I’ve found an slight better site (delivery and cost wise, kanojotoys) for me to do small purchases I might get the Heavens Fall Nine Ex-Hard as I have been interested in it…didn’t on the 4th as my cart was already quite large and thought that would be okay
Edit: Slow revolution does not have a vacuum entrance at all, as I over lubed and oh boy did it come out during 2nd usage and so did my load as soon as I got soft.
I did reduce stroke length, but often the pressure or tightness of the onaholes just pushes me out regardless or I’m not fast enough or aware enough to catch it in time. However, I don’t need to worry about any of that if I’m using the tenga spinner or the handy sleeve. If I have to micromanage my setup too much it becomes harder to relax and just enjoy myself, and thus contributes even more to the problem lol.
I think I’ll just have to stick with what I know works for now, and if I come across something that looks similar, and I have the money to spend, then I try it.
i would say Fleshlight Turbo Thrust can maybe hold soft.
That inside rings tight enough to catch a head, but definitely can’t go fast movements while soft
btw, depends on your personal OSR unit - Turbo case can or can’t fit into adapter, me get unlucky, so just using regular FL case with that sleeve
Fleshlight Turbo series are pretty good for this, because the rings kind of hold you in place.
Also I cheat a little bit and take PT-141 or Viagra if I am looking at a super long session. Makes things 100x easier.
I have no regrets picking it up. The reviews on it got me curious. Although, I use it for slower/edging type scripts so it might be a miss for you. And I would use the magic eyes sweet lotion lube thats used with the mouth of truth.
I just noticed that it’s inside texture actually looks to be similar to slow revolution’s one. Do you think they are as if so then slow revolution is really just a soft version of it with also an big entrance of nothingness?
(why do so many onaholes have their entrances be nearly a quarter of the entire tunnel length??)
PS I also have to say I’m torn on the small vs big bocca…as the small actually has more texture to it on the roof of the mouth along with not quite as long tunnel before you get the an different texture…however the big is definately seeming to be more durable and less problematic if the tongue attempts to get in the way when re-entering from teething the “head”, which the teeth are more pronounced. Both do seem to have the same problem of some material flaking away and being annoying to get a dry stick into them.
Also I think most of the big’s size is just thickening up the walls rather than an better/durable material used.
PPSS There’s too few multi-axis slow blowjob scripts honestly to make good use of the bocca’s due in part to the teeth and tongue, I had the small bocca nose down and got stuck under the tongue when the script pushed me against the bottom, threatening hard with a big bump to break through it. I believe part of it is due to most videos having hands and mouth movements occur at once without it being too clear as to which one to script upon.
I never tried the slow revolution but a review on the heavens fall describes it as sort of a sand paper like feel, but in a pleasurable way which I feel is a decent description of it. No idea how the slow revolution feels.
In regards to the bocca, I have the og and bulky one and I much prefer the bulky one for bj multi axis vids. Great deepthroat feeling and the vids that play with the head lets the tongue swirl on the head. You do feel more of the teeth compared to the og though but the tongue on the bulky is a game changer.
I also did initially have the issue of going under the tongue when it went to the tip but a slight adjustment to how i strapped the bj ona fixed it.
I also disabled the randomizer for pitch & roll, not sure if it makes a difference but I do it just to be sure.
I’m 0-100 on all with default settings on mfp w/osr2+
