I mean quality check, aka fitting endpoints, is a long asked site feature. A pure AI script does not have this quality yet. They are working hard to change that and I am sure they will.
Iād like to emphasize that the work that k00gar and spatialflux have done thus far is outstanding. Iāve had the opportunity to use FunGen on a couple of videos that I wanted scripts for and the output is certainly good enough for my purposes. It just happens that FunGen is well trained on the scenes I prefer to watch.
Iām not against AI content at all. One of the scenes I used FunGen on is a scene that Iāve approached 3 paid scripters to do via the commission tag that didnāt respond to my messages. AI tools at least give me that option.
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Absolutely just does not need category yet.
If people are doing pure AI scripts then I would say a tag/category should be added. But for AI assisted ones not so much. The community here is pretty good at calling out ppl if scripts arenāt up to part (respectful and unrespectful lol) I feel that they will just weed itself out. As one guy posted here , there is already a there with 1400+ scripts all pure AI generated. Some ppl like them some donāt but the point here is that itās just one thread vs many. If it stays that way we should be good.
I tried some of FunGen scripts. Some were complete trash while others were passable for the parts of video that I liked. So they do fit a purpose. Crazy time we are in I say thatā¦ esp with the news about a new AI video model being released this past week. Impressive work ngl
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After reading through the thread, my thought is that this community would only benefit from banning AI scripts altogether. While they will provide with a much higher quantity, they will considerably lower the average quality, make it more difficult for website members to moderate and filter through them, and worsen the experience for all.
That doesnāt mean that AI tooling and software shouldnāt exist in and of itself, though. If someone wants to create a program that automatically generates scripts on the fly, or even as a background job, I have no issues with that. People taking their own videos and self-hosting solutions for their own personal use is their own choice, and the one they will make very deliberately ā downloading a program or setting up a Docker container requires intent.
If you want to create a script with automation assistance, be it motion tracking, or whatever AI tooling exists, it should still require a certain non-insignificant amount of validation of the output. Unattended slop should be purged, but I have no issues with using it as a basis that increases efficiency and scripting enjoyment for those that find benefit in generative tooling.
What I donāt like about a whole separate category is legitimization of AI-generated stuff, and additional complexity of moderation. For EroScriptās staff members, I implore you to consider the implications of future work that lies ahead with AI content: there will inevitably be cases of videos lacking AI tags, being improperly placed outside of AI category, as well as edge-cases that will heavily rely on wishy-washy stuff like prior reputation, vibes, and subjective analysis. I believe that closing this Pandoraās box early by banning AI slop outright will benefit the community; meanwhile, allowing software development to proceed will allow people to have a wider reach of content that has at least some kind of scripts available for it.
Iām willing to reconsider this position if and when AI tooling is at the point where it can match skilled scripters, especially in terms of consistency of output and complete lack of jank, but not until then.
Edit: As for booru stuff, I donāt mind it if itās a whole separate website/subdomain, but I donāt want EroScripts in the way we currently understand it to be anywhere near AI slop.
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Definitely do not want to see the main forums flooded with unchecked AI scripts, but if a script was AI generated and then cleaned/checked/completed, then obviously thatās fine.
Iāve been using that new tool that specializes in VR but also makes some good 2D POV scripts occasionally, FunGen, and I can say it can get a few several minutes segments of scripts at a āpretty goodā level, but I still have to scroll through and check it because it can randomly miss a stroke or do a stroke when it shouldnāt be there, even if the output looks smooth.
Weāre definitely getting there fast, and for the VR stuff I think there are cases where several minutes can look pretty good, but itās still in a WIP state imo, to go putting out and hosting AI-generated unchecked scripts.
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IMO an AI script should just be tagged (and annotated with the level of manual review/edit it got) and itād be good enough for most use cases, a separate category would make it more difficult to check new scripts
Iām going to repeat myself and say what Iād like to see - any way to distinguish handmade and generated scripts. To me even a single āgeneratedā tag is good enough. Make it mandatory for scripts that are generated and a way for the community to flag posts that omit it. Done.
What I donāt like in this thread is that weāre starting to talk about big changes that are either very radical or are never going to happen any foreseeable future. This discussion isnāt going to lead to anything other than just more talking and no real solution being implemented in the end. Few points that were brought up here that i disagree with:
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Making a separate category for generated scripts - itāll lead to further fragmentation and will make things harder to browse.
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Banning generated scripts altogether - as itās been already mentioned here and what I also agree with, generated scripts are better than no scripts. This is especially true for the majority of the users here who are either not technical or bothered enough to set it all up for themselves to be able to generate scripts. Iād also argue that generated scripts, while repetitive and predictable, can sometimes be higher quality than handmade scripts created by some scripters. Another thing is that some of those who generate scripts clearly state that itās a āplaceholderā until someone makes one by hand. Iāve hand-scripted one myself which was already generated.
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Setting up a script quality reviewing process - this isnāt realistically going to happen any time soon, just due to the amount of work itās going to take. Maybe we will have something like this set up at some point in the future with enough people (trustworthy/verified) willing to do the reviews, but thatās not a solution we should be going for right now.
Last thing being mentioned here is categorizing what a generated script even is (partially generated / human-touched). To me a generated script is one that was generated and mostly untouched. Itās not something that is measurable, but once you try such script you just know itās not hand-made. Because of this I would, again, simply add a rule to tag generated scripts as generated and leave that judgement to the one creating the topic, with the ability for the community to flag the post. This will likely solve 95% of the cases. No āsystemicā approach that is going to take forever to implement and will not catch everything anyway.
Im thinking the best way to handle this is as we already do.
We can definitely make a rule for disclosing generated scripts.
Im also in favor of banning generated scripts from paid scripts.
The issue is although generated scripts can be easily identified theres no definitive way to prove it.
This has been in my attention for some time.
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I would love such a rule as there are some users who donāt disclose it at all.
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Just wanted to say how much I appreciate this community. The different perspectives make this place what it is, and Iām grateful for that.
Also, much appreciation to the staff for keeping everything running smoothly. I know itās not always easy, but the work you do is seriously appreciated.
Thanks for making this a great space, and looking forward to the future of EroScripts!
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I have NO idea how one even goes about AI scripting. Donāt care. I guess I can see how it could be cool if it was for personal use or whatever but like to put out something NOT toiled over? I wouldnāt have faith in its fidelity.
And imo it sorta takes away the entire experience of being a scripter. I mean like itās all about the process, the growth, learningā¦making shit scripts, hopefully making better scripts.
Maybe itās the artist, teacher in me. I donāt consider AI images art because there is nothing of the intrinsic and necessary decisions and experience of making a work of art present. Art is a uniquely human expression. I believe. AI can never truly have theā¦ITā¦of a human made work of art. Probably same goes for scripts. My 2 1/3 cents.
Tag limit is increased.
Moderation discussion on how the generative AI rule will be enforce / what the rules would look like.
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Adrieeeeeennnnnn. No really FunGen will go from a horribly bad scripter to a good one and likely never perfect. Until Fungen is really good, AI can not have a category in my opinion or we could just make a category bad scripter. Until then FunGen will flow into handmade scripts. I see Fungen as wingman when generating scripts. At the moment my wingman is quite drunk mostly but he is in your detox hostpital after all. FunGen has tremendous potential and will eliminate paid scripts at some time.
Thanks @roa 
Always appreciate your frank and honest feedback.
The project was originally designed for non scripters so they can locally generate for their own personal use a funscript for an unscripted video of their liking, in a give-back-to-the-community approach.
Not to post or distribute anything within eroscripts and lessen the overall quality standards or submerge it with effortlessly created funscripts.
For scripters, if this can be seen as a help or a wingman at some point, even if this was not the original target, this is flattering, and another discussion indeed.
I fully understand each oneās point of view and the very valid arguments and am not trying to challenge or negate any of them.
Sorry if this is considered off topic, but since the project was mentioned here, I just wanted to try and clarify what we were trying to do for anyone who might have not read in full the dedicated thread.
Feel free to delete this message if disrupting the initial intent of the thread.
Thank you!
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Actually, you are one the one with the most things to say.
You, as a developer, understand how the AI things differ from scripting manually and tracing. And you can estimate the amount of scripts that are going to appear.
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I felt like at the end of the day people are more concerned about quality check than the use AI scripting tools itself.
So I just want to encourage people to leave feedback for scripts, especially if youāve noticed anything wrong using them (just remember to be constructive and civil). It helps new scripters, and in the case of AI generated scripts, it helps the devs.
This could be related to the āTopic Ratingā feature I suggested before, but I guess modding Discourse creates more problems than not. Qualitative feedback are often more helpful than a star rating, too.
I mainly use estim and iām lazy and when ur doing estim u donāt really notice if the ai scripts are off when it comes to audio based ai scripts which i like to make for hmvās and pmvās, until ai can make those perfectly and or also other type of scripts accurately i donāt see a point in having this category. I hope it does tho. scripting is so time consuming and anything that makes it faster and more accurate is always nice to have.
Itās in sync or out of sync that should be clear on any script. Sync is also what AI tries to accomplish. Out of sync can not be fixed it has to be redone.