Upcoming loli/shota ban and timeline

to add onto this, first of all, :sob: tummy
secondly,

are you going to treat JAV and porn any differently now? It’s been brought up a few times but a JAV actress like Rara Kudou has some real obvious pedo-y works like this one where she’s literally wearing a grade school uniform


What about JAV adaptations of loli hentai/doujins as well?

The JAV actresses are adults in those works, but it clearly leans into the fetish. What about age-play porn?

What about this one where she’s simply cosplaying a somewhat loli character (Eris)
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/tmavr-161-vr-individual-shooting-mushoku-tensei-parody-part-2-4-roxy-migurdia-and-eris-greyrat-both-parts


and lastly, I asked before but, what about people who come here looking for it without knowing about the ban and simply ask, can we link alternate forums, mention places to go find it elsewhere and whatnot.

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I think at least we should be able to share scripts and just not the videos.

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This thread is now going in circles (even without morality discussion).

I saw no new arguments in last 2 days, just rehashing of points that were brought up numerous times already, and their counterpoints are already in this thread, quoted again, then repeating of same non-arguments (due to seemingly no one spending time to read the actual law that is governing subject of this thread).

The question about porn on site is completely moot. Porn is a regulated industry and rules for porn apply to it. You might not like that some things are allowed, but that is the US law. Same as you might not like that some things are dissalowed under obscenity law that covers material (I can’t say non-porn because law tries to exclude “art” that is not porn, and practically only makes “not-art/porn” fiction with certain depictions illegal) that is in question here and is cause of this thread, but that is the law. Questions about “what about x” where x is part of regulated porn industry are not questions for moderators but for US lawmakers.

The question about

has answer already

I am sure they will expand/update the exact rules as the time goes and clarity will grow, but for now just accept you will have to validate your posts with mods before posting them whenever there is no clear criteria. They will devise more rules as they answer questions about whether this or that is allowed.

All that is left to clarify is what will happen when someone posts scripts without any links or pictures (because that will happen, even if someone needs to build up trust level to try it), I guess there is already policy about low effort posts, but mod team has not yet confirmed they will enforce it (or I did not see the confirmation).

I think answering this question is of interest for most of the community (you will have to answer it with your (non)actions soon enough anyway). Answer that and I think you can lock the thread (or change slow mode to allow one post per week), if there was anything trully unclear it would have been asked already…

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I came home from work and the thread was a fun one.
Anyway, why is it that people with old values who still confuse Loli and Shota with CP are without exception emotional and aggressive?
We are supposed to be comrades who are on this site for pleasure, even though we have different sexual preferences. I am sad.

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but how do they draw the line? what’s the thought process? I know it’s based on looks but how do they determine it?

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Right now we have an internal mod thread for voting on what we think.

I personally base my Loli barometer on if something clearly appears prepubescent. like in your examples I would probably define A as loli and B as not.

Ive said in another thread at some point. Small human and flat chest ≠ child. If it did piper perry would not be allowed to do porn.

I would say it primarily comes down to body proportions like head to body ratio (Obviously excluding chibi depictions).

I cant speak for how other moderators will vote but thats how I vote.

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I think to make voting less tedious everyone should vote to the same standard, the one you have said.

Isn’t that just the same as saying “lets all agree on one standard for what loli is and isn’t”? Which has been going around and around in here for the past 420 ish posts or so to the point where topic specific rules are now in place? (Since we were all clearly smoking something a bit too hard)

I think all of us voting on the same barometer defeats the purpose of voting.

We all as humans have different opinions and thats ok. What I consider loli is different than others and thats where this problem originates.

We all will vote in good faith. the mods regularly discuss these things together. I actually dont think any of the mods are anti-loli morally so I doubt we will be overzealous. and even so If I catch something I disagree with that wasnt voted on I will challenge it.

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Also uh what does the term “oppai-loli” mean as I just seen a script topic have the oppai bit added to it?
Is it saying that the character is loli in every aspect other than their breasts so it’s not going to be banned? (If so why even leave it in instead of fully remove?)

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but this isnt about considering what is loli or not its about considering if they are prepubescent looking or not. because we all know some of these posts still being kept could easily be considered loli and are for sure.

you shouldn’t even call it a loli ban its basically a prepubescent ban lol

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If different moderators have different criteria for deletion, wouldn’t it be fair to say that there is no obligation to delete?
I don’t think it’s theoretically possible to say, "Let’s judge by appearances.

Just out of curiosity, since you seem to have some personal experience with this; do you have any recommendations or references for offshore hosts suitable for this sort of thing?

Thanks,

I did give a recommendation to the mod team. If you had plans on hosting a site, DM me with what you’re going to do and I can give you more advice if you’re serious with following through on it.

Related: Upcoming loli/shota ban and timeline - #32 by alphasigma

Oh I can help you out with that.

Oppai-lolis are, as you said, lolis with adult sized chests such as Hanae from Blue Archive.

furthermore, there’s another term that we should be aware on going further

Lolibabas - Adult women with loli body proportions such as the landlady in the “Dokidoki little Ooyasan” series and, technically, Rory Mercury.

The term “oppai loli” is a slang term originating in Japan that refers to characters who appear young but have ample breasts. They often appear in fictional works such as anime, manga, and video games. Usually, Lolita characters (Lolita characters) are characterized by their juvenile appearance and petite physique, but “oppai loli” characters are characterized by their large breasts, contrary to these characteristics.

If the criteria for deletion is whether the character is prepubescent or not, I do not believe that “oppai loli” falls into this category.

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(from the video called “Blue archive devs being based for 7 minutes”. An absolute delight to watch)

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In Japan, there are multiple definitions of the term Loli Babaa.

  1. It looks like a child on the outside. Their age ranges from tens to hundreds of years old.
  2. A child who talks and acts like an old woman (appearance and actual age are the same).

Some consider 1 as Loli Babaa and distinguish 2 as Noja Loli.
Noja" is one of the archaic endings in Japanese.

It is impossible to distinguish between “Loli Babaa” and “Noja Loli” by appearance, so you will have to read the story to find out.

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Everyone please remember this

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ok but like why do u guys care if ppl talk about it? yeah its not gonna change anything about the ban but people will argue about what they want to and this is normal its not like its against the rules of the site so long as people are being cordial and respectful.

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