Fair point.
I do want to promote discussion. but we also don’t want to cloud this thread from people looking for information concerning the ban.
I have opened this thread for debate discussion. It can continue there:
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I’ve seen a particular character pop up quite often in some virt-a-mate videos, trying to figure out whether she falls in the ‘loli’ category:
Here are some details about her:
- Petite and youthful appearance
- Dark hair and cat ears
- Succubus-themed design
For:
- She has a small stature and childlike features.
- Her design emphasizes cuteness and innocence.
- Cat girls are often categorized as loli due to their visual similarities
Against:
- She has mature personality traits.
- Succubi are powerful mythical creatures with a lifespan of over 1000 years, making her a milf, even gilf
- The design is more focused on a supernatural theme than a loli archetype.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on how to classify her (mods will have the final say but I"d still like to hear your thoughts)
- Loli
- Not a Loli
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If we go by the general definition of loli, yes she is.
The site’s definition for loli is, however, ones that looks clearly prepubescent. She doesn’t fit in that criteria in my opinion.
- Tits. Small tits ≠ child, unless it’s a completely lack of.
- Visible curves around waist and hips.
Overall it feels like an adult model scaled down using various sliders (which is how things work in VaM) than one that is carefully sculpted after a child.
Visuals always gets the priority. Canonical age, lore and scenario may be considered but it’s always the last on the checklist.
(this is why to facilitate this gentlemanly evaluation you need to credit the source 
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I still want to check with other mods though. The fact this being realistic CGI brings another layer of risk. Should this been toon-shaded or hand drawn I’d give it pass.
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Thanks for the clarification @Falafel , that was really helpful.
Here’s the source of the screenshot if it helps with evaluation: Iwara Succubus-chan HMV
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Personally I dont get why this was mentioned at all.
she looks clearly adult to me.
If someone reported this asking to tag as loli I would reject it.
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yeah thats called a petite adult lol
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Please attend this thread if you want to continue on the morality discussion.
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all porn is fictional even actual porn is fictional in some ways lol
probably sooner than later since beastality (not people in fursuits) is in same category as csam (or loli)
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that much is true. that content also got hit by the mega ban
I do NOT agree,granted, there is a fine line of what should be acceptable and what should not but either way it isnt like we are kid diddlers, half the reason people find it exciting is BECAUSE it is taboo (i think) EITHER WAY i absolutley DO NOT agree with removal of existing scripts, if you want to prevent more from being made fine, but dont throw salt in the wound by deleting peoples work
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Watch more JAV 
One of my favorite genre is Studio Giga’s “hero insult” videos where a villainess humiliates and rapes a hero. Sometimes even killing him after she’s done.
Can guarantee you it’s no small studio.
It is. That’s why lack of consent even in live action porn should not be a concern (except if the performers themselves do not actualy consent, d’uh)
That being said and in hopes of returning to topic. Even if I’m no fan of the initial decision, it seems the definition of loli is getting more and more specific to a point not much videos/scripts will be affected. It’s a compromise I can somewhat get behind.
Would still be a shame to lose any of that work, though, and I hope someone’s doing some archiving for the sake of preservation.
Personally I like Mantis-X’s work, almost no tits, short, granted i like it because if cumflation but shit either way in those animations i see no implication that they are children, i see Adults granded disabled adults with stunted growth or whatnot but ADULTS. I mean seriously. whats the difference between loli and midget/dwarf if they both look the same in regards to proportions?
Is it possible to simply unlist posts so they are no longer searchable, but they still remain on the site if you have the URL?
I disagree on that. Too many young guys “learn” from porn and don’t see it as fantasy. They grab their girls neck in a choking manner during sex without asking because they’ve seen it everywhere in porn where “the girls like it”. It should be clearly stated when a fantasy of “non-consentual” or violoent sex is featured in porn.
Sorry for going a little bit off topic.
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Not to want to continue going off topic but I can’t just not answer
Never have I ever heard of anyone doing that if they didn’t already have violent tendencies. You got studies you can show proving your point?
To me it’s a “Man can’t have steak because a baby can’t chew it” situation. Just because tons of schizos on social medias are unable to differentiate between reality and fiction doesn’t mean we have to stop doing what we want if it’s harmless.
I want my noncon and" reverse rape" fantasies in my porn and I don’t give a shit who gets offended about it. Period.
Sorry about the tangeant, let’s not go further off topic.
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choking is pretty hot, but tbh the hand around neck part is whats hot and you don’t have to actually grasp the neck hard.
also its not really choking. thats a misconception. choking involves something (like a cock) blocking the air way.
strangling or asphyxiation would be hand around neck etc. don’t ask me why i know that. 
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Anyone who thinks this isn’t a loli is coping insanely hard. Actually the funniest thing in this thread tbh.
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