Cuckold vs NTR tags + group tags

Currently, we have this tag wiki:

In it, we have this line:

Currently, there isn’t a tag for NTR and cuckold is being treated as the same thing, while in practice they are different. Usually, all cuckold should be NTR (netorase), but not all NTR is cuckold (e.g.: netorare, netori).
A lot of topics already use the cuckold tag and are specific with it, so changing the tag isn’t an option. Can we create a more general ntr tag? A lot of videos on animation are NTR, but shouldn’t be tagged cuckold because it simply isn’t.

Additionally, how about creating #multiple-boys and #multiple-girls tags like all boorus have? It’s more general than gangbang and reverse-gangbang, which can’t be applied to a lot of videos that have groups in them, making it harder to filter and search those.

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This is an issue with discourse.
Someone made the tags a synonym and tag synonyms don’t work the way you’d expect.
Unfortunately there’s nothing we can do at this point besides make it no longer a synonym and start using the tag going forward.

To create a tag, just add the tag to a topic. Spreading awareness to other topic authors is the tricky part.

Thank you both for your input.

Ah, I see. If it stops being a synonym, I could create the tag by adding it to related stuff as it appears on the feed as Rose said. If you think this makes sense, could you please undo the synonym?

Thanks for the clarification! That said, I wouldn’t feel comfortable creating tags without discussing them first, since it could cause tag clutter and frustration. In my opinion, the tags I suggested make sense (or I wouldn’t have proposed them), but while I wish they existed, I don’t want to unilaterally impose anything on community. I would certainly help tag topics as they appear on the feed to put them out there if they’re considered worth it.

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I have undone the synonym.
I’ve also mentioned to the mods that tag synonyms are not allowed until further notice.
It’s a destructive change we can’t revert and it’s implementation is bad.
If you notice any issues with tags going forward let us know. We are already aware of one that some synonym tags are already in use and this prevents users from searching for some tags.

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Since it’s been a week and there haven’t been anyone displaying contrary opinions here, I’m thinking about creating the #multiple-boys and #multiple-girls tags and start applying them. The idea is for them to be used when there are multiple men/women in the same scene (so for example, an HMV with many characters or a PMV with many people don’t count if each scene is 1-on-1).

If that sounds good, I think this topic can be marked as solved.

I think that can be covered by orgy

I had thought about a #group or orgy tag generalizing those cases, but I think they generalize too much.

From my point of view, filtering them out filters too much - a scene with many men or many women have different aspects to them (e.g.: ffm vs fmm threesome, harem vs reverse harem).

That being said, I do feel like the two tag names I proposed are too long for the forum and could take too much space, since we don’t have a dedicated side column for tags like boorus have.

What do you think?

We do have that, it just more like a section list though.
When it comes to tags I think simpler is better.
For ex.
MMF/FFM/Orgy are not all the same but Orgy is a blanket term for the others.
If someone is looking for FFM and uses the Orgy search term they will find it, along with the rest.
I want to avoid redundant tagging only because the implementation of tagging in discourse is frankly shit. The tagging works but tag aliases don’t work the way they should and I think the sentiment analysis search is much better than tag search.

If the tag situation in discourse gets better we can look more to being a booru style tagging. I would also increase the tag limit from 15 to probably 30 and allow much more niche tags, but for now. I think simpler is better.

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Sorry, I meant in the topics themselves.

But I see your point and… I actually agree. Now that I think about it after reading your thoughts, my idea would only add clutter in the current way tags are displayed.

Thanks for being open to the discussion.

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